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		<title>Journal</title>
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		<updated>2021-01-10T00:46:33Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Admin: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Dear Dad,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This journal is a gift with a twist - its from you to me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When we are children we are always asking questions... Well now I have some more for you.  Please could you answer them in the only way you know how and then give the book back to me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There is space at the end if you wish to add stories that weren&#039;t questions.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
They say we all have at least one book in us and this can be one of yours.  The story of you I will treasure forever.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[For The Record]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====LIFE====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the time and place you were born]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What are your earliest memories]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Where have you lived in your life - what do you remember about those places]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What do you remember about holidays you had as a child]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Where have you lived in your life - what do you remember about those places (part 2)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What foods did you eat as a child]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What did you drink as a child]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What was your favourite subject at school - what were you best at]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What did you study at university and where did you study]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about music camps...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What age were you when you started work - tell me about jobs you have had]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What are your favourite memories about your time in Vienna]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What would you do for a night out when you were dating]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about your wedding...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the friends you have had in your life...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the favourite place(s) you have travelled to...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What are the happiest or greatest memories of your life]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Describe your memories of some major world events that have happened in your lifetime...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What have you found most difficult in your life]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is your favourite piece (or pieces) of music]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about funny moments from your time in the band..]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about your favourite concerts you have been to...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the goals and aspirations you have had fo your life...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What were your favourite childhood toys or games]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the pets you have had...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about cars you have owned - what was your first car]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the marathons...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Is there anywhere you have not been, but want to go]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===FAMILY===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[I&#039;d like to know about your parents... names, dates of birth, and tell me some stories about them...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me what you know about your father&#039;s parents and family...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me what you know about your mother&#039;s parents and family...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What do you remember about your grandparents]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What interesting information do you know about other people in your family]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What do you think your parents thought of you as a child]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Describe any family traditions you had or maybe still have...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[How did you meet my mother]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[How did you decide on names for your children]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me your favourite family stories...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What are your fondest memories of things we have done as a family]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What funny memories do you have about your family]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===FUN===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What three items would you bring to a deserted island]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What product that isn&#039;t made anymore do you miss the most]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is your favourite Rangers related memory]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is your favourite food and drink and which food(s) and drink(s) can you not stand]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is something you wish you had done more of]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is something you wish you had done less of]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is your favourite book and/or author - what is your favourite film]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Do you have any favourite quotes]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Who is/are your favourite footballers]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me some of your funny footballing adventures...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===ADVICE===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Given your experiences what advice would you like to give]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is the best advice you ever received]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is the most important thing you learned as a parent]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Is there anything you wish you would have asked your parents]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Admin</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=What_are_your_earliest_memories&amp;diff=117</id>
		<title>What are your earliest memories</title>
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		<updated>2021-01-10T00:46:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Admin: create page&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Funnily enough I don&#039;t have any memories of Homeland other than it being pointed out if we ever drove past it.  Been trying to think about what is my earliest memory and that is actually quite difficult.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We lived at 27 Rathlin Street in Govan - I think on the second floor, but not sure about that one.  This was in a typical Glasgow tenement block &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I do have some vague memories of my early days at primary school - Harmony Row School - I don&#039;t remember much, but I do remember falling while running around the playground and putting my front teeth through my lip! Miss Binning!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After a couple of years (I think) you moved to Hill&#039;s Trust school - which was just around the cornerand along the road from where my gran and grampa lived in Langlands Road.  My best friend at those schools was Willie Humphrey - still connected to him on facebook.  We were always in competition for who was &amp;quot;top of the class&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
Willie is on my left in the middle of the back row.  I introduced Willie to the Salvation Army - both him and his younger brother Ian joined the YP Band.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
See :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.theglasgowstory.com/image/?inum=TGSA02443&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://getintogovan.com/projects/former-hills-trust-school/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When I was about 10 we moved to Penilee&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Admin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Tell_me_about_the_time_and_place_you_were_born&amp;diff=116</id>
		<title>Tell me about the time and place you were born</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Tell_me_about_the_time_and_place_you_were_born&amp;diff=116"/>
		<updated>2021-01-10T00:45:38Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Admin: create page&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;I was born late in the afternoon (6.55pm) on Saturday 28th November 1953 in Homeland which was a Salvation Army run maternity home at 1014 Great Western Road in Glasgow - there is an interesting topic about Homeland and other SA homes on a glasgow discussion board (http://discuss.glasgowguide.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=18733)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
see also :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.glasgowwestaddress.co.uk/Great_Western_Road/1014_Great_Western_Road.htm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/154037249725331049/&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Admin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=For_The_Record&amp;diff=115</id>
		<title>For The Record</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=For_The_Record&amp;diff=115"/>
		<updated>2021-01-10T00:43:55Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Admin: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
What is your full name&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
George Robert McConnell&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What is your date of birth&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
28th November 1953&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What colour are your eyes&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blue&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
How tall are you&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
6ft&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What blood group are you&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A Rhesus positive (I think)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What date did you complete this story for me&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I started this on 9th January 2021&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Admin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Journal&amp;diff=114</id>
		<title>Journal</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Journal&amp;diff=114"/>
		<updated>2021-01-10T00:42:06Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Admin: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Dear Dad,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This journal is a gift with a twist - its from you to me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When we are children we are always asking questions... Well now I have some more for you.  Please could you answer them in the only way you know how and then give the book back to me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There is space at the end if you wish to add stories that weren&#039;t questions.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
They say we all have at least one book in us and this can be one of yours.  The story of you I will treasure forever.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[For The Record]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====LIFE====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the time and place you were born]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was born late in the afternoon (6.55pm) on Saturday 28th November 1953 in Homeland which was a Salvation Army run maternity home at 1014 Great Western Road in Glasgow - there is an interesting topic about Homeland and other SA homes on a glasgow discussion board (http://discuss.glasgowguide.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=18733)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
see also :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.glasgowwestaddress.co.uk/Great_Western_Road/1014_Great_Western_Road.htm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/154037249725331049/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What are your earliest memories]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Funnily enough I don&#039;t have any memories of Homeland other than it being pointed out if we ever drove past it.  Been trying to think about what is my earliest memory and that is actually quite difficult.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We lived at 27 Rathlin Street in Govan - I think on the second floor, but not sure about that one.  This was in a typical Glasgow tenement block &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I do have some vague memories of my early days at primary school - Harmony Row School - I don&#039;t remember much, but I do remember falling while running around the playground and putting my front teeth through my lip! Miss Binning!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After a couple of years (I think) you moved to Hill&#039;s Trust school - which was just around the cornerand along the road from where my gran and grampa lived in Langlands Road.  My best friend at those schools was Willie Humphrey - still connected to him on facebook.  We were always in competition for who was &amp;quot;top of the class&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
Willie is on my left in the middle of the back row.  I introduced Willie to the Salvation Army - both him and his younger brother Ian joined the YP Band.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
See :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.theglasgowstory.com/image/?inum=TGSA02443&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://getintogovan.com/projects/former-hills-trust-school/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When I was about 10 we moved to Penilee&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Where have you lived in your life - what do you remember about those places]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What do you remember about holidays you had as a child]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Where have you lived in your life - what do you remember about those places (part 2)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What foods did you eat as a child]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What did you drink as a child]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What was your favourite subject at school - what were you best at]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What did you study at university and where did you study]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about music camps...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What age were you when you started work - tell me about jobs you have had]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What are your favourite memories about your time in Vienna]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What would you do for a night out when you were dating]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about your wedding...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the friends you have had in your life...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the favourite place(s) you have travelled to...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What are the happiest or greatest memories of your life]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Describe your memories of some major world events that have happened in your lifetime...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What have you found most difficult in your life]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is your favourite piece (or pieces) of music]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about funny moments from your time in the band..]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about your favourite concerts you have been to...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the goals and aspirations you have had fo your life...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What were your favourite childhood toys or games]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the pets you have had...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about cars you have owned - what was your first car]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the marathons...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Is there anywhere you have not been, but want to go]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===FAMILY===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[I&#039;d like to know about your parents... names, dates of birth, and tell me some stories about them...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me what you know about your father&#039;s parents and family...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me what you know about your mother&#039;s parents and family...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What do you remember about your grandparents]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What interesting information do you know about other people in your family]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What do you think your parents thought of you as a child]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Describe any family traditions you had or maybe still have...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[How did you meet my mother]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[How did you decide on names for your children]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me your favourite family stories...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What are your fondest memories of things we have done as a family]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What funny memories do you have about your family]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===FUN===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What three items would you bring to a deserted island]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What product that isn&#039;t made anymore do you miss the most]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is your favourite Rangers related memory]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is your favourite food and drink and which food(s) and drink(s) can you not stand]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is something you wish you had done more of]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is something you wish you had done less of]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is your favourite book and/or author - what is your favourite film]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Do you have any favourite quotes]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Who is/are your favourite footballers]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me some of your funny footballing adventures...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===ADVICE===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Given your experiences what advice would you like to give]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is the best advice you ever received]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is the most important thing you learned as a parent]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Is there anything you wish you would have asked your parents]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Admin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Journal&amp;diff=113</id>
		<title>Journal</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Journal&amp;diff=113"/>
		<updated>2021-01-10T00:41:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Admin: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Dear Dad,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This journal is a gift with a twist - its from you to me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When we are children we are always asking questions... Well now I have some more for you.  Please could you answer them in the only way you know how and then give the book back to me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There is space at the end if you wish to add stories that weren&#039;t questions.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
They say we all have at least one book in us and this can be one of yours.  The story of you I will treasure forever.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[For The Record]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===LIFE===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the time and place you were born]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was born late in the afternoon (6.55pm) on Saturday 28th November 1953 in Homeland which was a Salvation Army run maternity home at 1014 Great Western Road in Glasgow - there is an interesting topic about Homeland and other SA homes on a glasgow discussion board (http://discuss.glasgowguide.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=18733)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
see also :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.glasgowwestaddress.co.uk/Great_Western_Road/1014_Great_Western_Road.htm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/154037249725331049/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What are your earliest memories]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Funnily enough I don&#039;t have any memories of Homeland other than it being pointed out if we ever drove past it.  Been trying to think about what is my earliest memory and that is actually quite difficult.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We lived at 27 Rathlin Street in Govan - I think on the second floor, but not sure about that one.  This was in a typical Glasgow tenement block &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I do have some vague memories of my early days at primary school - Harmony Row School - I don&#039;t remember much, but I do remember falling while running around the playground and putting my front teeth through my lip! Miss Binning!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After a couple of years (I think) you moved to Hill&#039;s Trust school - which was just around the cornerand along the road from where my gran and grampa lived in Langlands Road.  My best friend at those schools was Willie Humphrey - still connected to him on facebook.  We were always in competition for who was &amp;quot;top of the class&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
Willie is on my left in the middle of the back row.  I introduced Willie to the Salvation Army - both him and his younger brother Ian joined the YP Band.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
See :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.theglasgowstory.com/image/?inum=TGSA02443&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://getintogovan.com/projects/former-hills-trust-school/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When I was about 10 we moved to Penilee&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Where have you lived in your life - what do you remember about those places]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What do you remember about holidays you had as a child]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Where have you lived in your life - what do you remember about those places (part 2)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What foods did you eat as a child]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What did you drink as a child]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What was your favourite subject at school - what were you best at]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What did you study at university and where did you study]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about music camps...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What age were you when you started work - tell me about jobs you have had]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What are your favourite memories about your time in Vienna]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What would you do for a night out when you were dating]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about your wedding...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the friends you have had in your life...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the favourite place(s) you have travelled to...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What are the happiest or greatest memories of your life]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Describe your memories of some major world events that have happened in your lifetime...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What have you found most difficult in your life]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is your favourite piece (or pieces) of music]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about funny moments from your time in the band..]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about your favourite concerts you have been to...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the goals and aspirations you have had fo your life...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What were your favourite childhood toys or games]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the pets you have had...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about cars you have owned - what was your first car]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the marathons...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Is there anywhere you have not been, but want to go]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===FAMILY===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[I&#039;d like to know about your parents... names, dates of birth, and tell me some stories about them...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me what you know about your father&#039;s parents and family...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me what you know about your mother&#039;s parents and family...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What do you remember about your grandparents]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What interesting information do you know about other people in your family]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What do you think your parents thought of you as a child]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Describe any family traditions you had or maybe still have...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[How did you meet my mother]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[How did you decide on names for your children]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me your favourite family stories...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What are your fondest memories of things we have done as a family]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What funny memories do you have about your family]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===FUN===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What three items would you bring to a deserted island]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What product that isn&#039;t made anymore do you miss the most]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is your favourite Rangers related memory]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is your favourite food and drink and which food(s) and drink(s) can you not stand]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is something you wish you had done more of]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is something you wish you had done less of]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is your favourite book and/or author - what is your favourite film]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Do you have any favourite quotes]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Who is/are your favourite footballers]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me some of your funny footballing adventures...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===ADVICE===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Given your experiences what advice would you like to give]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is the best advice you ever received]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is the most important thing you learned as a parent]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Is there anything you wish you would have asked your parents]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Admin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=For_The_Record&amp;diff=112</id>
		<title>For The Record</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=For_The_Record&amp;diff=112"/>
		<updated>2021-01-10T00:41:19Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Admin: create page&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
What is your full name&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
George Robert McConnell&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What is your date of birth&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
28th November 1953&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What colour are your eyes&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blue&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
How tall are you&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
6ft&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What blood group are you&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A Rhesus positive (I think)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What date did you complete this story for me&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Admin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Journal&amp;diff=111</id>
		<title>Journal</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Journal&amp;diff=111"/>
		<updated>2021-01-10T00:40:15Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Admin: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Dear Dad,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This journal is a gift with a twist - its from you to me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When we are children we are always asking questions... Well now I have some more for you.  Please could you answer them in the only way you know how and then give the book back to me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There is space at the end if you wish to add stories that weren&#039;t questions.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
They say we all have at least one book in us and this can be one of yours.  The story of you I will treasure forever.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[For The Record]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What is your full name&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
George Robert McConnell&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What is your date of birth&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
28th November 1953&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What colour are your eyes&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blue&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
How tall are you&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
6ft&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What blood group are you&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A Rhesus positive (I think)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What date did you complete this story for me&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===LIFE===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the time and place you were born]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was born late in the afternoon (6.55pm) on Saturday 28th November 1953 in Homeland which was a Salvation Army run maternity home at 1014 Great Western Road in Glasgow - there is an interesting topic about Homeland and other SA homes on a glasgow discussion board (http://discuss.glasgowguide.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=18733)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
see also :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.glasgowwestaddress.co.uk/Great_Western_Road/1014_Great_Western_Road.htm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/154037249725331049/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What are your earliest memories]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Funnily enough I don&#039;t have any memories of Homeland other than it being pointed out if we ever drove past it.  Been trying to think about what is my earliest memory and that is actually quite difficult.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We lived at 27 Rathlin Street in Govan - I think on the second floor, but not sure about that one.  This was in a typical Glasgow tenement block &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I do have some vague memories of my early days at primary school - Harmony Row School - I don&#039;t remember much, but I do remember falling while running around the playground and putting my front teeth through my lip! Miss Binning!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After a couple of years (I think) you moved to Hill&#039;s Trust school - which was just around the cornerand along the road from where my gran and grampa lived in Langlands Road.  My best friend at those schools was Willie Humphrey - still connected to him on facebook.  We were always in competition for who was &amp;quot;top of the class&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
Willie is on my left in the middle of the back row.  I introduced Willie to the Salvation Army - both him and his younger brother Ian joined the YP Band.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
See :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.theglasgowstory.com/image/?inum=TGSA02443&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://getintogovan.com/projects/former-hills-trust-school/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When I was about 10 we moved to Penilee&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Where have you lived in your life - what do you remember about those places]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What do you remember about holidays you had as a child]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Where have you lived in your life - what do you remember about those places (part 2)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What foods did you eat as a child]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What did you drink as a child]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What was your favourite subject at school - what were you best at]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What did you study at university and where did you study]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about music camps...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What age were you when you started work - tell me about jobs you have had]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What are your favourite memories about your time in Vienna]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What would you do for a night out when you were dating]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about your wedding...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the friends you have had in your life...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the favourite place(s) you have travelled to...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What are the happiest or greatest memories of your life]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Describe your memories of some major world events that have happened in your lifetime...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What have you found most difficult in your life]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is your favourite piece (or pieces) of music]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about funny moments from your time in the band..]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about your favourite concerts you have been to...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the goals and aspirations you have had fo your life...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What were your favourite childhood toys or games]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the pets you have had...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about cars you have owned - what was your first car]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the marathons...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Is there anywhere you have not been, but want to go]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===FAMILY===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[I&#039;d like to know about your parents... names, dates of birth, and tell me some stories about them...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me what you know about your father&#039;s parents and family...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me what you know about your mother&#039;s parents and family...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What do you remember about your grandparents]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What interesting information do you know about other people in your family]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What do you think your parents thought of you as a child]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Describe any family traditions you had or maybe still have...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[How did you meet my mother]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[How did you decide on names for your children]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me your favourite family stories...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What are your fondest memories of things we have done as a family]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What funny memories do you have about your family]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===FUN===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What three items would you bring to a deserted island]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What product that isn&#039;t made anymore do you miss the most]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is your favourite Rangers related memory]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is your favourite food and drink and which food(s) and drink(s) can you not stand]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is something you wish you had done more of]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is something you wish you had done less of]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is your favourite book and/or author - what is your favourite film]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Do you have any favourite quotes]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Who is/are your favourite footballers]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me some of your funny footballing adventures...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===ADVICE===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Given your experiences what advice would you like to give]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is the best advice you ever received]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is the most important thing you learned as a parent]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Is there anything you wish you would have asked your parents]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Admin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Journal&amp;diff=110</id>
		<title>Journal</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Journal&amp;diff=110"/>
		<updated>2021-01-10T00:38:08Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Admin: correct format&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Dear Dad,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This journal is a gift with a twist - its from you to me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When we are children we are always asking questions... Well now I have some more for you.  Please could you answer them in the only way you know how and then give the book back to me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There is space at the end if you wish to add stories that weren&#039;t questions.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
They say we all have at least one book in us and this can be one of yours.  The story of you I will treasure forever.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[For The Record]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What is your full name&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
George Robert McConnell&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What is your date of birth&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
28th November 1953&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What colour are your eyes&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blue&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
How tall are you&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
6ft&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What blood group are you&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A Rhesus positive (I think)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What date did you complete this story for me&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===LIFE===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the time and place you were born]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was born late in the afternoon (6.55pm) on Saturday 28th November 1953 in Homeland which was a Salvation Army run maternity home at 1014 Great Western Road in Glasgow - there is an interesting topic about Homeland and other SA homes on a glasgow discussion board (http://discuss.glasgowguide.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=18733)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
see also :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.glasgowwestaddress.co.uk/Great_Western_Road/1014_Great_Western_Road.htm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/154037249725331049/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What are your earliest memories]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Funnily enough I don&#039;t have any memories of Homeland other than it being pointed out if we ever drove past it.  Been trying to think about what is my earliest memory and that is actually quite difficult.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We lived at 27 Rathlin Street in Govan - I think on the second floor, but not sure about that one.  This was in a typical Glasgow tenement block &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I do have some vague memories of my early days at primary school - Harmony Row School - I don&#039;t remember much, but I do remember falling while running around the playground and putting my front teeth through my lip! Miss Binning!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After a couple of years (I think) you moved to Hill&#039;s Trust school - which was just around the cornerand along the road from where my gran and grampa lived in Langlands Road.  My best friend at those schools was Willie Humphrey - still connected to him on facebook.  We were always in competition for who was &amp;quot;top of the class&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
Willie is on my left in the middle of the back row.  I introduced Willie to the Salvation Army - both him and his younger brother Ian joined the YP Band.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
See :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.theglasgowstory.com/image/?inum=TGSA02443&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://getintogovan.com/projects/former-hills-trust-school/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When I was about 10 we moved to Penilee&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Where have you lived in your life - what do you remember about those places]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What do you remember about holidays you had as a child]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Where have you lived in your life - what do you remember about those places (part 2)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What foods did you eat as a child]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What did you drink as a child]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What was your favourite subject at school - what were you best at]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What did you study at university and where did you study]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about music camps...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What age were you when you started work - tell me about jobs you have had]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What are your favourite memories about your time in Vienna]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What would you do for a night out when you were dating]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about your wedding...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the friends you have had in your life...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the favourite place(s) you have travelled to...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What are the happiest or greatest memories of your life]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Describe your memories of some major world events that have happened in your lifetime...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What have you found most difficult in your life]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is your favourite piece (or pieces) of music]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about funny moments from your time in the band..]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about your favourite concerts you have been to...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the goals and aspirations you have had fo your life...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What were your favourite childhood toys or games]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the pets you have had...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about cars you have owned - what was your first car]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the marathons...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Is there anywhere you have not been, but want to go]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===FAMILY===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[I&#039;d like to know about your parents... names, dates of birth, and tell me some stories about them...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me what you know about your father&#039;s parents and family...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me what you know about your mother&#039;s parents and family...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What do you remember about your grandparents]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What interesting information do you know about other people in your family]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What do you think your parents thought of you as a child]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Describe any family traditions you had or maybe still have...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[How did you meet my mother]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[How did you decide on names for your children]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me your favourite family stories...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What are your fondest memories of things we have done as a family]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What funny memories do you have about your family]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===FUN===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What three items would you bring to a deserted island]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What product that isn&#039;t made anymore do you miss the most]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is your favourite Rangers related memory]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is your favourite food and drink and which food(s) and drink(s) can you not stand]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is something you wish you had done more of]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is something you wish you had done less of]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is your favourite book and/or author - what is your favourite film]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Do you have any favourite quotes]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Who is/are your favourite footballers]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me some of your funny footballing adventures...]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===ADVICE===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Given your experiences what advice would you like to give]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is the best advice you ever received]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is the most important thing you learned as a parent]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Is there anything you wish you would have asked your parents]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Journal&amp;diff=109</id>
		<title>Journal</title>
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		<updated>2021-01-10T00:33:41Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;Dear Dad,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This journal is a gift with a twist - its from you to me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When we are children we are always asking questions... Well now I have some more for you.  Please could you answer them in the only way you know how and then give the book back to me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There is space at the end if you wish to add stories that weren&#039;t questions.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
They say we all have at least one book in us and this can be one of yours.  The story of you I will treasure forever.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[For The Record]]&lt;br /&gt;
What is your full name&lt;br /&gt;
George Robert McConnell&lt;br /&gt;
What is your date of birth&lt;br /&gt;
28th November 1953&lt;br /&gt;
What colour are your eyes&lt;br /&gt;
Blue&lt;br /&gt;
How tall are you&lt;br /&gt;
6ft&lt;br /&gt;
What blood group are you&lt;br /&gt;
A Rhesus positive (I think)&lt;br /&gt;
What date did you complete this story for me&lt;br /&gt;
==LIFE==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the time and place you were born]]&lt;br /&gt;
I was born late in the afternoon (6.55pm) on Saturday 28th November 1953 in Homeland which was a Salvation Army run maternity home at 1014 Great Western Road in Glasgow - there is an interesting topic about Homeland and other SA homes on a glasgow discussion board (http://discuss.glasgowguide.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=18733)&lt;br /&gt;
see also :&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.glasgowwestaddress.co.uk/Great_Western_Road/1014_Great_Western_Road.htm&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/154037249725331049/&lt;br /&gt;
[[What are your earliest memories]]&lt;br /&gt;
Funnily enough I don&#039;t have any memories of Homeland other than it being pointed out if we ever drove past it.  Been trying to think about what is my earliest memory and that is actually quite difficult.&lt;br /&gt;
We lived at 27 Rathlin Street in Govan - I think on the second floor, but not sure about that one.  This was in a typical Glasgow tenement block &lt;br /&gt;
I do have some vague memories of my early days at primary school - Harmony Row School - I don&#039;t remember much, but I do remember falling while running around the playground and putting my front teeth through my lip! Miss Binning!&lt;br /&gt;
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After a couple of years (I think) you moved to Hill&#039;s Trust school - which was just around the cornerand along the road from where my gran and grampa lived in Langlands Road.  My best friend at those schools was Willie Humphrey - still connected to him on facebook.  We were always in competition for who was &amp;quot;top of the class&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
Willie is on my left in the middle of the back row.  I introduced Willie to the Salvation Army - both him and his younger brother Ian joined the YP Band.&lt;br /&gt;
See :&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.theglasgowstory.com/image/?inum=TGSA02443&lt;br /&gt;
https://getintogovan.com/projects/former-hills-trust-school/&lt;br /&gt;
When I was about 10 we moved to Penilee&lt;br /&gt;
[[Where have you lived in your life - what do you remember about those places]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[What do you remember about holidays you had as a child]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Where have you lived in your life - what do you remember about those places (part 2)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[What foods did you eat as a child]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[What did you drink as a child]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[What was your favourite subject at school - what were you best at]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[What did you study at university and where did you study]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about music camps...]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[What age were you when you started work - tell me about jobs you have had]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[What are your favourite memories about your time in Vienna]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[What would you do for a night out when you were dating]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about your wedding...]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the friends you have had in your life...]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the favourite place(s) you have travelled to...]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[What are the happiest or greatest memories of your life]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Describe your memories of some major world events that have happened in your lifetime...]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[What have you found most difficult in your life]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is your favourite piece (or pieces) of music]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about funny moments from your time in the band..]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about your favourite concerts you have been to...]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the goals and aspirations you have had fo your life...]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[What were your favourite childhood toys or games]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the pets you have had...]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about cars you have owned - what was your first car]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me about the marathons...]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Is there anywhere you have not been, but want to go]]&lt;br /&gt;
==FAMILY==&lt;br /&gt;
[[I&#039;d like to know about your parents... names, dates of birth, and tell me some stories about them...]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me what you know about your father&#039;s parents and family...]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me what you know about your mother&#039;s parents and family...]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[What do you remember about your grandparents]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[What interesting information do you know about other people in your family]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[What do you think your parents thought of you as a child]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Describe any family traditions you had or maybe still have...]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[How did you meet my mother]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[How did you decide on names for your children]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me your favourite family stories...]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[What are your fondest memories of thigs we have done as a family]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[What funny memories do you have about your family]]&lt;br /&gt;
==FUN==&lt;br /&gt;
[[What three items would you bring to a deserted island]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[What product that isn&#039;t made anymore do you miss the most]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is your favourite Rangers related memory]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is your favourite food and drink and which food(s) and drink(s) can you not stand]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is something you wish you had done more of]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is something you wish you had done less of]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is your favourite book and/or author - what is your favourite film]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Do you have any favourite quotes]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Who is/are your favourite footballers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Tell me some of your funny footballing adventures...]]&lt;br /&gt;
==ADVICE==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Given your experiences what advice would you like to give]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is the best advice you ever received]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[What is the most important thing you learned as a parent]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Is there anything you wish you would have asked your parents]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
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		<title>Anecdotes</title>
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		<updated>2021-01-10T00:24:02Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Admin: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;===Tales from a Life===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Where do you start with a life (hi)story?  Its all very well saying &amp;quot;start at the beginning&amp;quot; but that raises at least one rather problemsome issue - one doesn&#039;t remember the beginning that well!!  Our memories are, indeed very patchy, so I can only think that the way forward has to be to replicate that - pick whatever &amp;quot;comes to mind&amp;quot; and use each thing as a stepping stone to completeness - although it is inevitable that completeness will forever be unattainable.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So - perhaps I should begin by listing some &amp;quot;notable achievements&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;life highlights&amp;quot; and then begin to build round those.  Will be interesting to see how these things get triggered - and what comes back to mind that has been &#039;lost&#039; for some time.  As this is going to be sort of like a diary - albeit a patchy one - it should be possible to do &amp;quot;what happened next&amp;quot; along various different strands.  The categories will allow different ways of carving things up - not just chronologically.  The different &amp;quot;lives&amp;quot; that I lead - and have been mentioned elsewhere - can be developed - music - church - family - work - sport - and others - they do, of course, overlap and that is why the categorisation combined with the chronology will start to show patterns (I expect).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are starting from this page and don&#039;t know what to look for can I suggest that you have a look at the [[Special:Categories|Categories]] page and choose a starting subject/era.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Journal]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=The_Marathon_Marathon&amp;diff=107</id>
		<title>The Marathon Marathon</title>
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		<updated>2020-12-12T18:23:39Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;[[Category:1986]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Running]]&lt;br /&gt;
===The Athens Marathon===&lt;br /&gt;
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I never intended to become a runner - however, having managed to complete a marathon, there were soon some goals and ambitions - most of which remain unfulfilled I have to admit - especially the fact that I never did make it to the Honolulo Marathon.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did, though, do the &amp;quot;Holy Grail&amp;quot; race - the Athens Marathon - from Marathon to Athens, finishing in the old Olympic Stadium.  At the time I was working in Wien and two of us made the trip to Athens &#039;for the weekend&#039; - yep, we flew out there on the Friday and, if I remember correctly came back on the Monday, perhaps the Tuesday!!  My initial impressions were not good - the Greeks devalued the currency whilst we were on the flight!!  So our spending money was rather less than we had anticipated!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We were staying in a hotel right in the centre of Athens - the whole trip was organised through a travel company - they provided accommodation, transfers, race registration, pre race tour of the course and visit to Marathon itself, registration for the race, t-shirts, medal - and I think even a certificate.  The race was - at that time - one of the last bastions of the really &#039;pure&#039; amateur races with the minimum of assistance, organisation and &#039;perks&#039; coming from the Greek Athletic association.  Certainly no goody bags!!&lt;br /&gt;
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The hotel was good - well situated - but just a bit dated.  We went searching for the registration office soon after we arrived - it was a tiny little place - and because they were doing all of the foreign runners it was very crowded.  There was even an obligatory group of very noisy americans.  One of them - and I kid you not - was even rejoicing in the surname Kilroy - yes &amp;quot;Kilroy was there&amp;quot;!!  They had plenty of complaints about how &amp;quot;amateurish&amp;quot; the setup was - how long everything took to happen - and lots of other things - we just got on with getting registered.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the Saturday we were taken in a bus to get our first view of the course and to visit the museum that is situated at [http://www.visitmarathon.gr/index.php/el/gr-photo-gallery the start in Marathon].  I remember thinking &amp;quot;this seems a bit hilly&amp;quot; but didn&#039;t pay too much attention to the precise nature of the hills - I would find out about that properly on the Sunday Morning.&lt;br /&gt;
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We were up nice and early - we had to be to catch the convoy of busses that were taking the runners to the start line - that was quite an adventure in itself.  It was already quite warm and clearly one of the souvenirs of our trip was going to be a nice suntan!!&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:route_athens.jpg|550px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The route is straightforward - you follow the road from Marathon to Athens - with a bit of a detour round [http://www.visitmarathon.gr/index.php/en/tomb-of-the-athenians/ the tomb at Marathon] - which covers the bodies of the 192 Athenians who died at the Battle of Marathon in 490BC.  It was on this detour that the first water stop was positioned.  Seems that the early runners turned the corner to see the &amp;quot;helpers&amp;quot; standing with a table full of empty cups and a barrel of water - there was then a rather frantic effort to get the water into the cups in time to hand out to the stream of runners (it being only a few miles into the run everyone was still pretty much close together - even us &#039;slow&#039; runners at the back were not too far behind.&lt;br /&gt;
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The water stops were, in fact, just about the only &amp;quot;amenity&amp;quot; that the Greek Athletic organisation provided (apart from a clock at the finish) and as the run went on I was to discover that their &amp;quot;organisation&amp;quot; was somewhat lacking.  Anyone expecting the frequent and well stocked supplies that are provided on, for instance, the London Marathon would be VERY surprised!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The first 10 miles of the race takes you along the coast past Nea Makri and on to Rafina where you turn inland and head for Athens.  That ten miles is pretty flat - the next ten miles which takes you to the outskirts of the city is almost unrelentingly uphill!!!  Also - because you are traveling in the same direction for such a long time - the suntan was very much down one side!!&lt;br /&gt;
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Now, anyone who knows me as a runner (or did - currently I think I need to be described as an ex-runner!!) knows that I LOVE hills - but only going down them.  Any incline reduces me to a shuffling wreck!  I suspect that this was the case even before I tackled those ten miles - but by the time I was half way up the relentless climbing, the sun down one side of my body, the relatively high temperature - all of this was contributing to a great desire to walk!!&lt;br /&gt;
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I should also explain that, just for once, I had a bit of an excuse for not putting in my best ever marathon performance.  This race was in October and the previous July I had been running in a half marathon at Ybbs an der Donau.  At close to 20kms - so about one mile from the finish - I was running well and heading for a half marathon PB (I had actually set my best ever time for a 10k in the beginning of the half marathon).  At almost the exact moment I stepped on the marker on the road indicating 20kms gone I felt like I had been shot in the thigh - a sudden - very sharp - pain - something had &amp;quot;twanged&amp;quot;.  I did reach the finish - but ended with a rather disappointing time in the circumstances and only just able to hobble back to the train station for the journey back to Wien.&lt;br /&gt;
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The injury stopped me running for a few weeks - then, when I got back to running I found that some days I could run without a problem for miles - whilst other days I struggled to cover even a short distance.  Knowing that the &amp;quot;big&amp;quot; race was approaching I persevered rather than have the complete rest that might have enabled a full recovery.  I was therefore &amp;quot;building up&amp;quot; to a marathon in a way that is definitely not to be recommended!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oh yes - and I was actually building up for two marathons, because just a couple of weeks before the Athens adventure I ran the Glasgow marathon for the third (and final as it turns out) time - turning in by far the worst performance of the three (although the weather was not ideal, so that contributed to my struggles with less training mileage than I would have liked.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Having said that (and getting back to half way up that hill in Greece!!) at no point in either the Glasgow or Athens marathon did my injury cause me any direct problem - it was simply the lack of decent preparation that ensured that both marathons took much longer than I would have liked!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:panathinaiko.jpg|550px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I was, therefore, quite a long way back in the &amp;quot;pack&amp;quot; and certainly not on for a great time.  Additionally, the wonderful organisation (!) meant that by the time I was reaching the water stops - few and far between as they were - it was becoming common for there to be little or no water remaining.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There were a group of Canadian Paratroopers taking part and they had brought along friends and family to support them.  I was very grateful to them for taking pity on me (whom they could clearly identify as a fellow &amp;quot;foreigner&amp;quot;) and providing me with some of the water that they had brought.  Probably made the difference between me achieving a slow time and a DNF.  (It should be noted that they were helping me - a brit - but not any of the Americans!!)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Towards the end of the long climb it was becoming a much more lonely run.  Although there were plenty of folks behind me in the race everyone was strung out with big gaps between them.  I was, thankfully, in a better state than most round me and the few times that I did see anyone I was catching them up rather than being overtaken (note: this says more about how bad their state was than about anything positive regarding my race pace!!).  As we neared the &amp;quot;top of the hill&amp;quot; and the start of running in Athens proper I could see another person slowly &amp;quot;coming back to me&amp;quot; - I was (as usual) encouraged by the idea of catching and passing anyone and that feeling intensified when I realised that the person in front was, indeed, Killroy (the American) from the registration the day before!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You&#039;ve no idea how good it felt to overtake him just before we crested the rise.  I was confident that my usual good downhill form would allow me to get away in the remaining six miles - and I was already looking forward to saying to my mates &amp;quot;Killroy woz there - and I beat him&amp;quot;!! &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The downhill proved to be slightly less &amp;quot;easy&amp;quot; than you might expect.  Anyone who has run a marathon knows what your legs feel like when you get into the closing miles - the &amp;quot;controlled falling&amp;quot; that typified my downhill running was hampered somewhat by the inability to make my legs work in the normal fashion.  It was still much better than going uphill!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I overtook a few people in the last six miles and was feeling a bit better about things as I approached the Olympic stadium.  There was someone a few yards ahead of me that I had been slowly reeling in over the closing miles.  When you reach the stadium you turn left off the road - across a wide paved area - then take a couple of steps up to the stadium itself and you are immediately on the home straight.  As I left the road there was one poor guy lying on the pavement with someone trying hard to get rid of the cramp that had come on as a result of the &amp;quot;step&amp;quot; up onto the pavement.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:athensmarathon.jpg|300px|right]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That made me just a little wary about the steps into the stadium - but I conquered those and - wonder of wonder - outsprinted the guy that I had been catching!  Well - perhaps outshuffled would be a better term, I&#039;m not sure either of us was capable of anything remotely like a sprint by that time.  Despite it being a LONG time after the winner had completed the run there were still some folks in the &amp;quot;stands&amp;quot; including lots of the Canadians awaiting some of their guys who were still behind me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It was, I admit, rather special to be cheered along those last metres as I put my all into overtaking my fellow runner - my one and only run along an olympic track.  Chris had finished quite a while before me - but at least had the decency to hang around to that we could both stagger back to the hotel together.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Our weekend adventure wasn&#039;t over - we walked for ages on the Sunday evening looking for a good place to eat - could be that this was the occasion when Chris really did have chips with his dessert (he was known for having chips with everything!!).  The next day we were on our flight back to Wien and back to work!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Anecdotes&amp;diff=106</id>
		<title>Anecdotes</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Anecdotes&amp;diff=106"/>
		<updated>2020-12-12T18:22:35Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Admin: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;===Tales from a Life===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Where do you start with a life (hi)story?  Its all very well saying &amp;quot;start at the beginning&amp;quot; but that raises at least one rather problemsome issue - one doesn&#039;t remember the beginning that well!!  Our memories are, indeed very patchy, so I can only think that the way forward has to be to replicate that - pick whatever &amp;quot;comes to mind&amp;quot; and use each thing as a stepping stone to completeness - although it is inevitable that completeness will forever be unattainable.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So - perhaps I should begin by listing some &amp;quot;notable achievements&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;life highlights&amp;quot; and then begin to build round those.  Will be interesting to see how these things get triggered - and what comes back to mind that has been &#039;lost&#039; for some time.  As this is going to be sort of like a diary - albeit a patchy one - it should be possible to do &amp;quot;what happened next&amp;quot; along various different strands.  The categories will allow different ways of carving things up - not just chronologically.  The different &amp;quot;lives&amp;quot; that I lead - and have been mentioned elsewhere - can be developed - music - church - family - work - sport - and others - they do, of course, overlap and that is why the categorisation combined with the chronology will start to show patterns (I expect).&lt;br /&gt;
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If you are starting from this page and don&#039;t know what to look for can I suggest that you have a look at the [[Special:Categories|Categories]] page and choose a starting subject/era.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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===Mozart in Rothesay===&lt;br /&gt;
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Well - he wasn&#039;t there exactly - this is a tale of playing some music of Mozart (and Borodin, Tchaikovsky and Dvorak - and Strauss as an encore) in Rothesay.&lt;br /&gt;
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My fifth year at Allan Glens was &amp;quot;Highers&amp;quot; year.  For many in Scotland it is the last year at school before going to university - however I was enjoying school so much (!!!) that I had already decided that I would do a sixth year to add a few extra exams.  My highers included music - not much of a surprise there - and that required a practical exam as well as a written one.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As a French Horn player I had not (and still have not) ever bothered with doing &amp;quot;grades&amp;quot; - the Associated Board examinations that measure how proficient you are as a player - and so this was really my first ever &#039;real&#039; examination on any instrument.  The accepted wisdom was that The Scottish Higher was tested at a standard slightly higher than Grade 8 - the top grade that you could achieve and that was reflected in the required repertoire.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As well as scales, sight reading and some &amp;quot;listening tests&amp;quot; of harmony and other musical skills there were three &amp;quot;set pieces&amp;quot; for the exam.  The first movement of Haydn&#039;s 1st Horn Concerto, the slow second movement from Mozart&#039;s 4th Horn Concerto and the Rondo finale from Richard Strauss&#039; 1st Horn Concerto.  No mean little recital required there.&lt;br /&gt;
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The &amp;quot;powers that be&amp;quot; (or should that be &amp;quot;the powers that were&amp;quot;!!) within the Glasgow Schools music department were sufficiently impressed with what they heard from me that they did something that was previously unheard of - they scheduled a concerto for the Glasgow Schools&#039; Second Orchestra in the summer and asked if I would be prepared to play the Mozart (K495) in that concert.&lt;br /&gt;
I was, of course, flattered - a bit worried - and needing to learn the other movements to a sufficiently high standard!!!  This was to be my first &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; orchestra concert and I would not only be principal horn, but also I would be the soloist.  Wow!!  It was &#039;traditional&#039; to have a soloist at the First Orchestra - that year the music was the Mendellsohn Violin Concerto - but it was a real honour that they thought enough of my playing to deem it worthy of a place as soloist with the Second Orchestra.&lt;br /&gt;
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As an aside this was the start of a number of years of really enjoyable association with the Glasgow Schools&#039; Music Department with many adventures thrown in!!  One of the times in my life when I really felt that my skills were appreciated.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The rest of the programme was Borodin&#039;s Prince Igor Overture, Tchaikovsky&#039;s Marche Slav and the eight symphony of Dvorak.  Unlike &amp;quot;professional&amp;quot; soloists I was required to play in all of the rest of the programme as well!!  I guess that made for a particularly challenging ten days or so - but I have no particular memory of that side of it.  The conductor was Trevor Harvey - a real &amp;quot;larger than life&amp;quot; figure who was associated with many youth orchestras including the British Youth Symphony Orchestra.  He had a really great way with the orchestra - drawing out the skills - whilst understanding the limitations.&lt;br /&gt;
Not only was this my first &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; orchestra concert, it was also the first time that I had experienced the wonders of a &amp;quot;music camp&amp;quot; of any sort - the intensity of rehearsals - morning and afternoon for the duration of the course - the challenges and delights of &amp;quot;living with&amp;quot; a group of over 50 young people who shared a love of music - the novelty of being &amp;quot;away from home&amp;quot; for that time (this wasn&#039;t a first for me, but it was still sufficiently unusual that there was a lot of novelty).&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t remember that much, to be honest, of what happened during that time - I do remember making many friends - that always happens in those environments - one of whom invited me to go along to the Glasgow Arts Centre Orchestra where I met a pretty shy and inexperienced horn player.  [http://prohorn.co.uk/biog/ Hugh Seenan] would go on to a stellar career as a French Horn player (and I like to think that I influenced him just a little in the years that we played together back in Glasgow) including being principal horn in the RSNO and the LSO. (but that is another story!!)&lt;br /&gt;
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One memory that does stick in my mind relates to the Saturday evening in the middle of the course when we were given a bit of real free time - including the opportunity of going to the cinema.  I swallowed my natural introversion/reticence/hesitance/lack of confidence and plucked up the courage to actually ask one of the girls out on a &amp;quot;date&amp;quot;!!  She was the principal cellist and - to my mind - the prettiest girl in the orchestra!!&lt;br /&gt;
Unfortunately, my courage was plucked too late as I was beaten to the line by one of the other boys - her answer was sorry, but **** has already asked me.  Oh dear!!  There was, however, an upside to this for my sense of self worth.  After the concert my rival had rather indulged in too much alcohol - this had not endeared him to her!!  She confided that she wished she had accepted my date rather than his!&lt;br /&gt;
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We remained good friends for several years - she was the one who introduced me to the Glasgow Arts Centre orchestra - where again I was able to &#039;help&#039; Hugh on his journey to fame - I well remember even attempting the Schumann Konzertstuck with him and two others.&lt;br /&gt;
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When the &amp;quot;repeat concert&amp;quot; came around a couple of months after the Rothesay one (the orchestras all repeated their summer concerts in September/October time in Glasgow after a weekend of refreshing their memories) we were performing in the Glasgow Chambers.  When I walked out to play the Mozart (I needed the &#039;crutch&#039; of the music on the stand - not trusting my memory - although I did write out the whole of the Dvorak part from memory after the course!!) my music was on the stand and, written on the front was &amp;quot;Good Luck George, Lots of Love, *****, xx&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Undoubtedly one of the nice things to have happened to me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Growing up in Glasgow I was obviously aware of the sectarian divide - protestant and catholic schools - there was (in my world) no antagonism, but there were equally few opportunities to mix.  The Orchestra camps were, therefore, the very first time that I had (knowingly) been mixing with catholics.  I should say that there was absolutely no divisions noticeable at these camps - although the first question that was asked was often &amp;quot;which school do you go to&amp;quot; that was not in any way directed at choosing who was on &amp;quot;your side&amp;quot; - it was simply a way of getting know people a bit better.  Hugh (from St Mungo&#039;s) and my cellist friend (from Notre Dame) were just two examples of people that I would not have come into contact with other than through these sort of camps.&lt;br /&gt;
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Then again - as a pupil of Allan Glens&#039; I was not mixing with boys or girls from Glasgow High or Hillhead or any of the other Glasgow Schools I guess.  The point I am trying to make (I think) is that although there is - without a shadow of a doubt - some divisions rooted in the sectarian divides I don&#039;t think that they are particularly different from the &amp;quot;divides&amp;quot; between those who grow up in Penilee as against Pollock as against Partick (or wherever).  People wil naturally show some tribal loyalty - and some antagonism towards other tribes.  Religion is just one way in which these tribes are formed.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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===Mozart in Rothesay===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Well - he wasn&#039;t there exactly - this is a tale of playing some music of Mozart (and Borodin, Tchaikovsky and Dvorak - and Strauss as an encore) in Rothesay.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My fifth year at Allan Glens was &amp;quot;Highers&amp;quot; year.  For many in Scotland it is the last year at school before going to university - however I was enjoying school so much (!!!) that I had already decided that I would do a sixth year to add a few extra exams.  My highers included music - not much of a surprise there - and that required a practical exam as well as a written one.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As a French Horn player I had not (and still have not) ever bothered with doing &amp;quot;grades&amp;quot; - the Associated Board examinations that measure how proficient you are as a player - and so this was really my first ever &#039;real&#039; examination on any instrument.  The accepted wisdom was that The Scottish Higher was tested at a standard slightly higher than Grade 8 - the top grade that you could achieve and that was reflected in the required repertoire.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As well as scales, sight reading and some &amp;quot;listening tests&amp;quot; of harmony and other musical skills there were three &amp;quot;set pieces&amp;quot; for the exam.  The first movement of Haydn&#039;s 1st Horn Concerto, the slow second movement from Mozart&#039;s 4th Horn Concerto and the Rondo finale from Richard Strauss&#039; 1st Horn Concerto.  No mean little recital required there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The &amp;quot;powers that be&amp;quot; (or should that be &amp;quot;the powers that were&amp;quot;!!) within the Glasgow Schools music department were sufficiently impressed with what they heard from me that they did something that was previously unheard of - they scheduled a concerto for the Glasgow Schools&#039; Second Orchestra in the summer and asked if I would be prepared to play the Mozart (K495) in that concert.&lt;br /&gt;
I was, of course, flattered - a bit worried - and needing to learn the other movements to a sufficiently high standard!!!  This was to be my first &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; orchestra concert and I would not only be principal horn, but also I would be the soloist.  Wow!!  It was &#039;traditional&#039; to have a soloist at the First Orchestra - that year the music was the Mendellsohn Violin Concerto - but it was a real honour that they thought enough of my playing to deem it worthy of a place as soloist with the Second Orchestra.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As an aside this was the start of a number of years of really enjoyable association with the Glasgow Schools&#039; Music Department with many adventures thrown in!!  One of the times in my life when I really felt that my skills were appreciated.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The rest of the programme was Borodin&#039;s Prince Igor Overture, Tchaikovsky&#039;s Marche Slav and the eight symphony of Dvorak.  Unlike &amp;quot;professional&amp;quot; soloists I was required to play in all of the rest of the programme as well!!  I guess that made for a particularly challenging ten days or so - but I have no particular memory of that side of it.  The conductor was Trevor Harvey - a real &amp;quot;larger than life&amp;quot; figure who was associated with many youth orchestras including the British Youth Symphony Orchestra.  He had a really great way with the orchestra - drawing out the skills - whilst understanding the limitations.&lt;br /&gt;
Not only was this my first &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; orchestra concert, it was also the first time that I had experienced the wonders of a &amp;quot;music camp&amp;quot; of any sort - the intensity of rehearsals - morning and afternoon for the duration of the course - the challenges and delights of &amp;quot;living with&amp;quot; a group of over 50 young people who shared a love of music - the novelty of being &amp;quot;away from home&amp;quot; for that time (this wasn&#039;t a first for me, but it was still sufficiently unusual that there was a lot of novelty).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t remember that much, to be honest, of what happened during that time - I do remember making many friends - that always happens in those environments - one of whom invited me to go along to the Glasgow Arts Centre Orchestra where I met a pretty shy and inexperienced horn player.  [http://prohorn.co.uk/biog/ Hugh Seenan] would go on to a stellar career as a French Horn player (and I like to think that I influenced him just a little in the years that we played together back in Glasgow) including being principal horn in the RSNO and the LSO. (but that is another story!!)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One memory that does stick in my mind relates to the Saturday evening in the middle of the course when we were given a bit of real free time - including the opportunity of going to the cinema.  I swallowed my natural introversion/reticence/hesitance/lack of confidence and plucked up the courage to actually ask one of the girls out on a &amp;quot;date&amp;quot;!!  She was the principal cellist and - to my mind - the prettiest girl in the orchestra!!&lt;br /&gt;
Unfortunately, my courage was plucked too late as I was beaten to the line by one of the other boys - her answer was sorry, but **** has already asked me.  Oh dear!!  There was, however, an upside to this for my sense of self worth.  After the concert my rival had rather indulged in too much alcohol - this had not endeared him to her!!  She confided that she wished she had accepted my date rather than his!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We remained good friends for several years - she was the one who introduced me to the Glasgow Arts Centre orchestra - where again I was able to &#039;help&#039; Hugh on his journey to fame - I well remember even attempting the Schumann Konzertstuck with him and two others.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When the &amp;quot;repeat concert&amp;quot; came around a couple of months after the Rothesay one (the orchestras all repeated their summer concerts in September/October time in Glasgow after a weekend of refreshing their memories) we were performing in the Glasgow Chambers.  When I walked out to play the Mozart (I needed the &#039;crutch&#039; of the music on the stand - not trusting my memory - although I did write out the whole of the Dvorak part from memory after the course!!) my music was on the stand and, written on the front was &amp;quot;Good Luck George, Lots of Love, *****, xx&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Undoubtedly one of the nice things to have happened to me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Growing up in Glasgow I was obviously aware of the sectarian divide - protestant and catholic schools - there was (in my world) no antagonism, but there were equally few opportunities to mix.  The Orchestra camps were, therefore, the very first time that I had (knowingly) been mixing with catholics.  I should say that there was absolutely no divisions noticeable at these camps - although the first question that was asked was often &amp;quot;which school do you go to&amp;quot; that was not in any way directed at choosing who was on &amp;quot;your side&amp;quot; - it was simply a way of getting know people a bit better.  Hugh (from St Mungo&#039;s) and my cellist friend (from Notre Dame) were just two examples of people that I would not have come into contact with other than through these sort of camps.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Then again - as a pupil of Allan Glens&#039; I was not mixing with boys or girls from Glasgow High or Hillhead or any of the other Glasgow Schools I guess.  The point I am trying to make (I think) is that although there is - without a shadow of a doubt - some divisions rooted in the sectarian divides I don&#039;t think that they are particularly different from the &amp;quot;divides&amp;quot; between those who grow up in Penilee as against Pollock as against Partick (or wherever).  People wil naturally show some tribal loyalty - and some antagonism towards other tribes.  Religion is just one way in which these tribes are formed.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Glasgow Schools&#039; 1st Orchestra</title>
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===Castle Toward===&lt;br /&gt;
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In July 1971 I attended the Glasgow Schools&#039; 1st Orchestra summer &#039;camp&#039;.  I guess that &#039;camp&#039; is not really the right word as we spent the time at Castle Toward - certainly not the usual notion of what a camp looks like.  This was my second orchestral summer residential course following on from the [[Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra|2nd Orchestra&#039;s]] time in Rothesay the previous year and coming at the end of my schooling as it did I certainly envisaged it would be my last.  (although things didn&#039;t actually turn out that way)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:toward2.jpg|310px|left|middle|frameless]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The programme for the concert was an ambitious one.  Our conductor was John Carewe and it was also his first time with the Glasgow Schools&#039; Orchestra.  His predecessor, Lawrence Leonard, was known for his conservatism - the previous year he had programmed Elgar&#039;s 1st Symphony, but soon changed that to the &#039;safer&#039; Dvorak &amp;quot;New World&amp;quot;.  When you are trying to mould a group of youngsters into a creditable performing group in just over a week then I guess you need to minimise the risks.&lt;br /&gt;
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John Carewe, however, was confident that he could manage a much more innovative programme opening with Bartok&#039;s Concerto for Orchestra, followed by Haydn&#039;s C major Cello Concerto and, after the interval, concluding with Rimsky Korsakov&#039;s Scheherazade.  These were a challenge for the whole orchestra and I was really pleased to be principal French Horn for them - lots of good solos.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are many things that stand out in my memory - including cricket matches on the lawn, where I made up for my lack of skill by being extremely enthusiastic.  Unfortunately my face got too close to the ball at one point.  The resulting fat lip was hardly ideal for a horn player!!  The next day I was taken to Inverkip to see the doctor (one of the teachers dropped me off on the way to Dunoon and picked me up on the way back).  I seem to recall that I was given some gentian violet and told to rest it.&lt;br /&gt;
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So - I had a couple of days &#039;excused&#039; from rehearsals altogether and was allowed to be selective after that as well - I also gave the 1st Horn part for the Bartok to Kenny McLean (a school friend as well) and relegated myself to 3rd Horn to save myself for the rigours of Scheherazade.&lt;br /&gt;
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Our dormitory room had the advantage of a balcony - on which I spent much of the time when I was away from rehearsals.  The only other person not involved (some of the time) was the cello soloist - who was not playing in the Bartok.  She was in the dormitory immediately above - so we had these &amp;quot;Romeo and Juliet&amp;quot; like conversations with me below and she looking over the balcony!!&lt;br /&gt;
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I was a relative newcomer to classical music at that time - but I had already started what would become a very large collection of recordings.  One that I found, almost by accident, in my favourite little (cheap) record shop near the Kelvin Hall was Bruckner&#039;s 7th Symphony.  It is a piece of music that has remained ever since first hearing as one of my absolute favourites.  Turned out that she shared that particular liking.&lt;br /&gt;
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One evening when we were sitting on the wall above the lawn she started writing some music on the brick (not sure graffiti was a good thing to do - but never mind) - it was the opening couple of bars from Bruckner 7 where the cellos (and horns) sweep up out of the shimmering strings.  We were both pleased that the other recognised it.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:toward.jpg|380px|right]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Our dormitory housed (I think) about six - mainly guys from my school plus a couple of others.  One of them was a particular friend - a double bass player (with whom I shared many good times at school) who was also a bit of an amateur magician (and quite a good one).  He used to try out his tricks on me to see whether I could spot &#039;how it was done&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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A particular memory from the orchestra course was a rather hilarious series of card games.  Now these were a bit of a &amp;quot;you had to be there&amp;quot; thing - retelling it now cannot capture the full experience.  It relied on a few of us being extremely quick witted (not to mention witty!!) and had a lot in common radio programmes like &amp;quot;Just a Minute&amp;quot;.  The game was no fun unless there was an audience watching.&lt;br /&gt;
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The name of the game was &amp;quot;Chinaman&#039;s Twist&amp;quot; - and that was the only thing that was &#039;fixed&#039;.  Fundamentally the game did not actually exist at all - play consisted of the deck being dealt to the four (or however many) players and they had to discard their cards according to a set of rules that was - well - fluid - to say the least.  There were a few rules that became &#039;enshrined&#039; in tradition, but mainly we made it up as we went along - the skill being in coming up with weird and wonderful ways in which you could (or could not) discard a particular set of cards.&lt;br /&gt;
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I say &amp;quot;or could not&amp;quot; because part of the fun was managing to quickly think of some reason why the discarded set was &amp;quot;against the rules&amp;quot;.  As &#039;custodian&#039; of the game our resident magician and double bass player always had final say - and was probably the best person at the sort of creativity involved.  Of course, the more the game went on, the more complicated it became to remember each twist and turn of previous plays - and the more devious you had to be to discard any cards at all!!&lt;br /&gt;
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The fact that it was never long before we were helpless with laughter about one of the players being unable to discard a particular set &amp;quot;because on the second Tuesday after a full moon you could not pair a heart with a black 3&amp;quot; (and similar).  The game was unadulterated silliness - and the sillier it became the more everyone was laughing - often the funniest thing was someone who was watching who believed that we were actually playing to this huge book of (very) complicated rules (that we had, for the most part, memorised) rather than just making it up as we went along.&lt;br /&gt;
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I think, perhaps the silliest one was when we played it one night after lights out - you have probably heard of people who play chess without a board - well we played Chinaman&#039;s Twist without cards....  As you can imagine, the rules suddenly became even more ridiculous.  Still, in our dorm we were kept alert by the light from the Toward Lighthouse shining through the window!!&lt;br /&gt;
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Getting back to music, on one day we had a conducting competition.  I had already had some experience of conducting in the SA, so I was definitely NOT tempted to try my hand in front of the orchestra.  The &amp;quot;set piece&amp;quot; was the opening of Brahms&#039; 1st Symphony (which they had brought as the &#039;easy&#039; back up in case Scheherazade proved beyond us) and there was no shortage of volunteers.  John Carewe was the judge.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most folks gave it a good go - but - there is ALWAYS ONE!!  One of our trumpet players stepped up to the podium.  As I was still &#039;resting&#039; my lip I wasn&#039;t playing in orchestra, but standing at the back where I could see John Carewe.  I will never forget the sight of him - ducked behind a pillar - doubled up with laughter at the &#039;antics&#039; of the trumpet player - whose conducting skills would nowadays be compared to Mr Bean.&lt;br /&gt;
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The concert at the end of the course was, as always, in Dunoon and (even if I say it myself) I played pretty well given my encounter with the cricket ball (after that incident cricket with a hard ball was banned!!) with the exception of the three short solos near the beginning of Scheherazade.  Each is just three notes - each solo slightly lower in pitch than the previous one.&lt;br /&gt;
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The French Horn is, of course, notoriously difficult to play and susceptible to &#039;split&#039; notes due to the fact that the part of the harmonic series on which you are performing has so many notes close together.  I succeeded in in &#039;splitting&#039; the third note of the first solo, the second note of the second solo and the first note of the third solo.  I actually think that was quite tidy as a pattern.  (in the repeat concert in Glasgow a couple of months later when my lip was healed I am pleased to say that I managed all three correctly - and managed principal horn in both the Bartok and the Rimsky Korsakov)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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Where do you start with a life (hi)story?  Its all very well saying &amp;quot;start at the beginning&amp;quot; but that raises at least one rather problemsome issue - one doesn&#039;t remember the beginning that well!!  Our memories are, indeed very patchy, so I can only think that the way forward has to be to replicate that - pick whatever &amp;quot;comes to mind&amp;quot; and use each thing as a stepping stone to completeness - although it is inevitable that completeness will forever be unattainable.&lt;br /&gt;
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So - perhaps I should begin by listing some &amp;quot;notable achievements&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;life highlights&amp;quot; and then begin to build round those.  Will be interesting to see how these things get triggered - and what comes back to mind that has been &#039;lost&#039; for some time.  As this is going to be sort of like a diary - albeit a patchy one - it should be possible to do &amp;quot;what happened next&amp;quot; along various different strands.  The categories will allow different ways of carving things up - not just chronologically.  The different &amp;quot;lives&amp;quot; that I lead - and have been mentioned elsewhere - can be developed - music - church - family - work - sport - and others - they do, of course, overlap and that is why the categorisation combined with the chronology will start to show patterns (I expect).&lt;br /&gt;
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If you are starting from this page and don&#039;t know what to look for can I suggest that you have a look at the New Pages list in the right column or go to the [[Special:Categories|Categories]] page and choose a starting subject/era.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;===Welcome to ignorance!===&lt;br /&gt;
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It is the intention that these pages grow into a complete(-ish) picture of my thoughts and ideas about things related to the topic of &#039;&#039;&#039;systems&#039;&#039;&#039;.  This is, as anyone who knows anything about the subject will tell you, a task that is impossible to complete.  However, I hope that it becomes many steps in the right direction - and along the way it will point out plenty of side roads, playgrounds and libraries that are available for exploration.&lt;br /&gt;
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Note that this is not, nor does it seek to be, a complete resource telling you everything you need to know about systems - indeed, it probably points to many places that are closer to that ideal.  What it is is a personal view - I can only hope that it helps one or two.  (including me!)&lt;br /&gt;
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It will forever be work in progress!&lt;br /&gt;
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===Where do I start===&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, anywhere you like, however the list below suggests some pages that are useful starting points.  As you learn about systems you will (I hope) come to realise that since everything tends to be connected to everything else it matters little where you start - serendipity should take you to where you need to be.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[System]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Emergent Property]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect. It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra in Rothesay. Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad! The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest. It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day. Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though. Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken. For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on. As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp. So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring. My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed. The only &#039;amendment&#039; to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player. It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award. In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff. Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!! Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the highlights of the week was, of course, talent night. To be honest, I have never been completely comfortable with any sort of &amp;quot;acting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;performance&amp;quot; outside my comfort zone. I did get involved in some rather bizarre performances at music camp though - there was the male timbrel group - appearing on the stage to the strains of a minuet by Boccherini and prancing like ballet dancers - there was the &amp;quot;pop&amp;quot; group performances (&amp;quot;In the Summertime&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Puff the Magic Dragon&amp;quot;!!) - and one particular one that stands out in the memory was the comedic openair.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We have all been in army meetings when something is said or done which is loaded with unfortunateness - from the CSM announcing that in the rota for organising the Saturday evening events next weeks would be &amp;quot;the Corps Secs&#039; night&amp;quot; (think about how it sounds) to the prayer for those &amp;quot;lying in their bed of sickness&amp;quot; (eugh!) and not forgetting that old favourite &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot;!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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I was, I guess, rather late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect. It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra in Rothesay. Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad! The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest. It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day. Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though. Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken. For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on. As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp. So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring. My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed. The only &#039;amendment&#039; to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player. It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award. In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff. Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!! Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the highlights of the week was, of course, talent night. To be honest, I have never been completely comfortable with any sort of &amp;quot;acting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;performance&amp;quot; outside my comfort zone. I did get involved in some rather bizarre performances at music camp though - there was the male timbrel group - appearing on the stage to the strains of a minuet by Boccherini and prancing like ballet dancers - there was the &amp;quot;pop&amp;quot; group performances (&amp;quot;In the Summertime&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Puff the Magic Dragon&amp;quot;!!) - and one particular one that stands out in the memory was the comedic openair.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We have all been in army meetings when something is said or done which is loaded with unfortunateness - from the CSM announcing that in the rota for organising the Saturday evening events next weeks would be &amp;quot;the Corps Secs&#039; night&amp;quot; (think about how it sounds) to the prayer for those &amp;quot;lying in their bed of sickness&amp;quot; (eugh!) and not forgetting that old favourite &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot;.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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===West Linton Camps===&lt;br /&gt;
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I was, I guess, rather late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect.  It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the [[Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra]] in Rothesay.  Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though.  Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken.  For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on.  As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp.  So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring.  My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed.  The only &#039;amendment&#039;  to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player.  It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award.  In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff.  Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!!  Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the highlights of the week was, of course, talent night.  To be honest, I have never been completely comfortable with any sort of &amp;quot;acting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;performance&amp;quot; outside my comfort zone.  I did get involved in some rather bizarre performances at music camp though - there was the male timbrel group - appearing on the stage to the strains of a minuet by Boccherini and prancing like ballet dancers - there was the &amp;quot;pop&amp;quot; group performances (&amp;quot;In the Summertime&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Puff the Magic Dragon&amp;quot;!!) - and one particular one that stands out in the memory was the comedic openair.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We have all been in army meetings when something is said or done which is loaded with unfortunateness - from the CSM announcing that in the rota for organising the Saturday evening events next weeks would be &amp;quot;the Corps Secs&#039; night&amp;quot; (think about how it sounds) to the prayer for those &amp;quot;lying in their bed of sickness&amp;quot; (eugh!) and not forgetting that old favourite &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was used as an example of someone who has a fixation about a particular &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot; (for those who don&#039;t know what that is in the early army people would shout out a verse or phrase from the Bible - hence a &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot;.  In our openair we had someone who - repeatedly - used &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot; at the most inappropriate moments (like immediately after praying for Molly lying in her bed of sickness.... and the lot fell upon Jonah!!!) (you had to be there)&lt;br /&gt;
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Quite apart from the &amp;quot;fun&amp;quot; aspect - music camps back then - as they are now - are very helpful in the development of young people.  A week of intensive practice - musical and spiritual - and getting to know others &amp;quot;of a like mind&amp;quot; was never long enough.  As I alluded to above many friends have persisted from that time and the folks from around Glasgow that I met at music camp were very much the basis for the group of friends that I socialised with for much of my later years in Glasgow.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The fact that you shared so many experiences means that even many years later there is a bond that is hard to break - for those familiar with my blog entries this again supports the &amp;quot;Red Thread&amp;quot; series of entries in that blog. There is a picture (well there are several) of the &amp;quot;orderlies&amp;quot; at one of the camps where I look around them and think that most remained lifelong friends even though they are scattered far and wide geographically!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Perhaps I didn&#039;t make enough of &amp;quot;the people&amp;quot; when writing my first post in anecdote about Castle Toward.  The reality is that the single most important part of everything I have ever done is the people I have got to know, especially those who, in some way, became part of my life for many years.  It is a theme that is strong in my other writing - the relationships and interactions we have with others are what makes &amp;quot;special&amp;quot; occasions.  Like Castle Toward, the Music Camps intensify that - and it isn&#039;t a fleeting connection - it persists over a week or so and is often rekindled many times over the years.  The red threads are pulled tight and even if they loosen somewhat through time there is still a strong bond.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are, however, far too many stories about music camps.... One concerns the workings of the mind of Speug!! I can&#039;t remember the details but one night the window in one of the boy&#039;s dormitories was broken.  For reasons which have never been entirely clear to me, Speug came to the conclusion that the culprit had broken the window whilst climbing back through it and we should therefor inspect the left foot of everyone to see if there were signs of damage!!  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hmmmm....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the &#039;difficult&#039; (and unexpected) side effects was a level of &#039;fame&#039; that made for some awkward moments.  As an orderly it wasn&#039;t long before everyone got to know who you were - within that smallish community the orderlies were the Kardashians of their time!!  Months and years later people would come up to you at some event and talk to you - and it would take a while for the penny to drop - they remembered you from music camp!!!  It really was a case of &amp;quot;Everybody knows your name&amp;quot;!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the music front when I was an orderly I very much took a back seat (quite literally) in the band - often playing 2nd horn.  At the end of the week the A Band would undertake the Sunday meetings at one of the Scottish Corps.  On this particular year it was Parkhead.  The Band had three euphonium players - two of whom could not stay over for the Sunday.  Guess who was &#039;volunteered&#039; to cover the euphonium part and to assist the young man who was left to cover for his more experienced colleagues - yep - Me!!  I had an interesting day of sight reading!!  In the &amp;quot;wind-up&amp;quot; at the end of the Sunday evening meeting there was the song &amp;quot;Simply Trusting&amp;quot; (I think it was sung by the band, but it may have been a congregational song with small band accompaniment) to the tune of &amp;quot;Will Ye No Come Back Again&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Anyone who knows the brass arrangement will remember the &amp;quot;soaring&amp;quot; euphonium part - this was an unrehearsed item and my fellow euphonium player flatly refused to even consider playing it - so - off I went again!!  I&#039;m sure it was wonderful!!!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Scottish SA Music Camp</title>
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===West Linton Camps===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was, I guess, rather late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect.  It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the [[Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra]] in Rothesay.  Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though.  Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken.  For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on.  As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp.  So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring.  My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed.  The only &#039;amendment&#039;  to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player.  It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award.  In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff.  Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!!  Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the highlights of the week was, of course, talent night.  To be honest, I have never been completely comfortable with any sort of &amp;quot;acting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;performance&amp;quot; outside my comfort zone.  I did get involved in some rather bizarre performances at music camp though - there was the male timbrel group - appearing on the stage to the strains of a minuet by Boccherini and prancing like ballet dancers - there was the &amp;quot;pop&amp;quot; group performances (&amp;quot;In the Summertime&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Puff the Magic Dragon&amp;quot;!!) - and one particular one that stands out in the memory was the comedic openair.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We have all been in army meetings when something is said or done which is loaded with unfortunateness - from the CSM announcing that in the rota for organising the Saturday evening events next weeks would be &amp;quot;the Corps Secs&#039; night&amp;quot; (think about how it sounds) to the prayer for those &amp;quot;lying in their bed of sickness&amp;quot; (eugh!) and not forgetting that old favourite &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was used as an example of someone who has a fixation about a particular &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot; (for those who don&#039;t know what that is in the early army people would shout out a verse or phrase from the Bible - hence a &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot;.  In our openair we had someone who - repeatedly - used &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot; at the most inappropriate moments (like immediately after praying for Molly lying in her bed of sickness.... and the lot fell upon Jonah!!!) (you had to be there)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Quite apart from the &amp;quot;fun&amp;quot; aspect - music camps back then - as they are now - are very helpful in the development of young people.  A week of intensive practice - musical and spiritual - and getting to know others &amp;quot;of a like mind&amp;quot; was never long enough.  As I alluded to above many friends have persisted from that time and the folks from around Glasgow that I met at music camp were very much the basis for the group of friends that I socialised with for much of my later years in Glasgow.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The fact that you shared so many experiences means that even many years later there is a bond that is hard to break - for those familiar with my blog entries this again supports the &amp;quot;Red Thread&amp;quot; series of entries in that blog. There is a picture (well there are several) of the &amp;quot;orderlies&amp;quot; at one of the camps where I look around them and think that most remained lifelong friends even though they are scattered far and wide geographically!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Perhaps I didn&#039;t make enough of &amp;quot;the people&amp;quot; when writing my first post in anecdote about Castle Toward.  The reality is that the single most important part of everything I have ever done is the people I have got to know, especially those who, in some way, became part of my life for many years.  It is a theme that is strong in my other writing - the relationships and interactions we have with others are what makes &amp;quot;special&amp;quot; occasions.  Like Castle Toward, the Music Camps intensify that - and it isn&#039;t a fleeting connection - it persists over a week or so and is often rekindled many times over the years.  The red threads are pulled tight and even if they loosen somewhat through time there is still a strong bond.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are, however, far too many stories about music camps.... One concerns the workings of the mind of Speug!! I can&#039;t remember the details but one night the window in one of the boy&#039;s dormitories was broken.  For reasons which have never been entirely clear to me, Speug came to the conclusion that the culprit had broken the window whilst climbing back through it and we should therefor inspect the left foot of everyone to see if there were signs of damage!!  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hmmmm....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the &#039;difficult&#039; (and unexpected) side effects was a level of &#039;fame&#039; that made for some awkward moments.  As an orderly it wasn&#039;t long before everyone got to know who you were - within that smallish community the orderlies were the Kardashians of their time!!  Months and years later people would come up to you at some event and talk to you - and it would take a while for the penny to drop - they remembered you from music camp!!!  It really was a case of &amp;quot;Everybody knows your name&amp;quot;!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the music front when I was an orderly I very much took a back seat (quite literally) in the band - often playing 2nd horn.  At the end of the week the A Band would undertake the Sunday meetings at one of the Scottish Corps.  On this particular year it was Parkhead.  The Band had three euphonium players - two of whom could not stay over for the Sunday.  Guess who was &#039;volunteered&#039; to cover the euphonium part and to assist the young man who was left to cover for his more experienced colleagues - yep - Me!!  I had an interesting day of sight reading!!  In the &amp;quot;wind-up&amp;quot; at the end of the Sunday evening meeting there was the song &amp;quot;Simply Trusting&amp;quot; (I think it was sung by the band, but it may have been a congregational song with small band accompaniment) to the tune of &amp;quot;Will Ye No Come Back Again&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Anyone who knows the brass arrangement will remember the &amp;quot;soaring&amp;quot; euphonium part - this was an unrehearsed item and my fellow euphonium player flatly refused to even consider playing it - so - off I went again!!  I&#039;m sure it was wonderful!!!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Scottish SA Music Camp</title>
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&lt;br /&gt;
===West Linton Camps===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was, I guess, rather late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect.  It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the [[Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra]] in Rothesay.  Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though.  Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken.  For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on.  As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp.  So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring.  My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed.  The only &#039;amendment&#039;  to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player.  It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award.  In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff.  Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!!  Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the highlights of the week was, of course, talent night.  To be honest, I have never been completely comfortable with any sort of &amp;quot;acting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;performance&amp;quot; outside my comfort zone.  I did get involved in some rather bizarre performances at music camp though - there was the male timbrel group - appearing on the stage to the strains of a minuet by Boccherini and prancing like ballet dancers - there was the &amp;quot;pop&amp;quot; group performances (&amp;quot;In the Summertime&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Puff the Magic Dragon&amp;quot;!!) - and one particular one that stands out in the memory was the comedic openair.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We have all been in army meetings when something is said or done which is loaded with unfortunateness - from the CSM announcing that in the rota for organising the Saturday evening events next weeks would be &amp;quot;the Corps Secs&#039; night&amp;quot; (think about how it sounds) to the prayer for those &amp;quot;lying in their bed of sickness&amp;quot; (eugh!) and not forgetting that old favourite &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was used as an example of someone who has a fixation about a particular &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot; (for those who don&#039;t know what that is in the early army people would shout out a verse or phrase from the Bible - hence a &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot;.  In our openair we had someone who - repeatedly - used &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot; at the most inappropriate moments (like immediately after praying for Molly lying in her bed of sickness.... and the lot fell upon Jonah!!!) (you had to be there)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Quite apart from the &amp;quot;fun&amp;quot; aspect - music camps back then - as they are now - are very helpful in the development of young people.  A week of intensive practice - musical and spiritual - and getting to know others &amp;quot;of a like mind&amp;quot; was never long enough.  As I alluded to above many friends have persisted from that time and the folks from around Glasgow that I met at music camp were very much the basis for the group of friends that I socialised with for much of my later years in Glasgow.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The fact that you shared so many experiences means that even many years later there is a bond that is hard to break - for those familiar with my blog entries this again supports the &amp;quot;Red Thread&amp;quot; series of entries in that blog. There is a picture (well there are several) of the &amp;quot;orderlies&amp;quot; at one of the camps where I look around them and think that most remained lifelong friends even though they are scattered far and wide geographically!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Perhaps I didn&#039;t make enough of &amp;quot;the people&amp;quot; when writing my first post in anecdote about Castle Toward.  The reality is that the single most important part of everything I have ever done is the people I have got to know, especially those who, in some way, became part of my life for many years.  It is a theme that is strong in my other writing - the relationships and interactions we have with others are what makes &amp;quot;special&amp;quot; occasions.  Like Castle Toward, the Music Camps intensify that - and it isn&#039;t a fleeting connection - it persists over a week or so and is often rekindled many times over the years.  The red threads are pulled tight and even if they loosen somewhat through time there is still a strong bond.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are, however, far too many stories about music camps.... One concerns the workings of the mind of Speug!! I can&#039;t remember the details but one night the window in one of the boy&#039;s dormitories was broken.  For reasons which have never been entirely clear to me, Speug came to the conclusion that the culprit had broken the window whilst climbing back through it and we should therefor inspect the left foot of everyone to see if there were signs of damage!!  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hmmmm....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the &#039;difficult&#039; (and unexpected) side effects was a level of &#039;fame&#039; that made for some awkward moments.  As an orderly it wasn&#039;t long before everyone got to know who you were - within that smallish community the orderlies were the Kardashians of their time!!  Months and years later people would come up to you at some event and talk to you - and it would take a while for the penny to drop - they remembered you from music camp!!!  It really was a case of &amp;quot;Everybody knows your name&amp;quot;!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the music front when I was an orderly I very much took a back seat (quite literally) in the band - often playing 2nd horn.  At the end of the week the A Band would undertake the Sunday meetings at one of the Scottish Corps.  On this particular year it was Parkhead.  The Band had three euphonium players - two of whom could not stay over for the Sunday.  Guess who was &#039;volunteered&#039; to cover the euphonium part and to assist the young man who was left to cover for his more experienced colleagues - yep - Me!!  I had an interesting day of sight reading!!  In the &amp;quot;wind-up&amp;quot; at the end of the Sunday evening meeting there was the song &amp;quot;Simply Trusting&amp;quot; (I think it was sung by the band, but it may have been a congregational song with small band accompaniment) to the tune of &amp;quot;Will Ye No Come Back Again&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Anyone who knows the brass arrangement will remember the &amp;quot;soaring&amp;quot; euphonium part - this was an unrehearsed item and my fellow euphonium player flatly refused to even consider playing it - so - off I went again!!  I&#039;m sure it was wonderful!!!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Scottish SA Music Camp</title>
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[[Category:SA]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===West Linton Camps===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was, I guess, rather late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect.  It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the [Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra] in Rothesay.  Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though.  Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken.  For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on.  As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp.  So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring.  My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed.  The only &#039;amendment&#039;  to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player.  It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award.  In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff.  Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!!  Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the highlights of the week was, of course, talent night.  To be honest, I have never been completely comfortable with any sort of &amp;quot;acting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;performance&amp;quot; outside my comfort zone.  I did get involved in some rather bizarre performances at music camp though - there was the male timbrel group - appearing on the stage to the strains of a minuet by Boccherini and prancing like ballet dancers - there was the &amp;quot;pop&amp;quot; group performances (&amp;quot;In the Summertime&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Puff the Magic Dragon&amp;quot;!!) - and one particular one that stands out in the memory was the comedic openair.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We have all been in army meetings when something is said or done which is loaded with unfortunateness - from the CSM announcing that in the rota for organising the Saturday evening events next weeks would be &amp;quot;the Corps Secs&#039; night&amp;quot; (think about how it sounds) to the prayer for those &amp;quot;lying in their bed of sickness&amp;quot; (eugh!) and not forgetting that old favourite &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was used as an example of someone who has a fixation about a particular &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot; (for those who don&#039;t know what that is in the early army people would shout out a verse or phrase from the Bible - hence a &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot;.  In our openair we had someone who - repeatedly - used &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot; at the most inappropriate moments (like immediately after praying for Molly lying in her bed of sickness.... and the lot fell upon Jonah!!!) (you had to be there)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Quite apart from the &amp;quot;fun&amp;quot; aspect - music camps back then - as they are now - are very helpful in the development of young people.  A week of intensive practice - musical and spiritual - and getting to know others &amp;quot;of a like mind&amp;quot; was never long enough.  As I alluded to above many friends have persisted from that time and the folks from around Glasgow that I met at music camp were very much the basis for the group of friends that I socialised with for much of my later years in Glasgow.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The fact that you shared so many experiences means that even many years later there is a bond that is hard to break - for those familiar with my blog entries this again supports the &amp;quot;Red Thread&amp;quot; series of entries in that blog. There is a picture (well there are several) of the &amp;quot;orderlies&amp;quot; at one of the camps where I look around them and think that most remained lifelong friends even though they are scattered far and wide geographically!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Perhaps I didn&#039;t make enough of &amp;quot;the people&amp;quot; when writing my first post in anecdote about Castle Toward.  The reality is that the single most important part of everything I have ever done is the people I have got to know, especially those who, in some way, became part of my life for many years.  It is a theme that is strong in my other writing - the relationships and interactions we have with others are what makes &amp;quot;special&amp;quot; occasions.  Like Castle Toward, the Music Camps intensify that - and it isn&#039;t a fleeting connection - it persists over a week or so and is often rekindled many times over the years.  The red threads are pulled tight and even if they loosen somewhat through time there is still a strong bond.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are, however, far too many stories about music camps.... One concerns the workings of the mind of Speug!! I can&#039;t remember the details but one night the window in one of the boy&#039;s dormitories was broken.  For reasons which have never been entirely clear to me, Speug came to the conclusion that the culprit had broken the window whilst climbing back through it and we should therefor inspect the left foot of everyone to see if there were signs of damage!!  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hmmmm....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the &#039;difficult&#039; (and unexpected) side effects was a level of &#039;fame&#039; that made for some awkward moments.  As an orderly it wasn&#039;t long before everyone got to know who you were - within that smallish community the orderlies were the Kardashians of their time!!  Months and years later people would come up to you at some event and talk to you - and it would take a while for the penny to drop - they remembered you from music camp!!!  It really was a case of &amp;quot;Everybody knows your name&amp;quot;!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the music front when I was an orderly I very much took a back seat (quite literally) in the band - often playing 2nd horn.  At the end of the week the A Band would undertake the Sunday meetings at one of the Scottish Corps.  On this particular year it was Parkhead.  The Band had three euphonium players - two of whom could not stay over for the Sunday.  Guess who was &#039;volunteered&#039; to cover the euphonium part and to assist the young man who was left to cover for his more experienced colleagues - yep - Me!!  I had an interesting day of sight reading!!  In the &amp;quot;wind-up&amp;quot; at the end of the Sunday evening meeting there was the song &amp;quot;Simply Trusting&amp;quot; (I think it was sung by the band, but it may have been a congregational song with small band accompaniment) to the tune of &amp;quot;Will Ye No Come Back Again&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Anyone who knows the brass arrangement will remember the &amp;quot;soaring&amp;quot; euphonium part - this was an unrehearsed item and my fellow euphonium player flatly refused to even consider playing it - so - off I went again!!  I&#039;m sure it was wonderful!!!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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We have all been in army meetings when something is said or done which is loaded with unfortunateness - from the CSM announcing that in the rota for organising the Saturday evening events next weeks would be &amp;quot;the Corps Secs&#039; night&amp;quot; (think about how it sounds) to the prayer for those &amp;quot;lying in their bed of sickness&amp;quot; (eugh!) and not forgetting that old favourite &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot;!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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===West Linton Camps===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was, I guess, rather late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect.  It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra in Rothesay.  Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though.  Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken.  For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on.  As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp.  So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring.  My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed.  The only &#039;amendment&#039;  to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player.  It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award.  In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff.  Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!!  Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the highlights of the week was, of course, talent night.  To be honest, I have never been completely comfortable with any sort of &amp;quot;acting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;performance&amp;quot; outside my comfort zone.  I did get involved in some rather bizarre performances at music camp though - there was the male timbrel group - appearing on the stage to the strains of a minuet by Boccherini and prancing like ballet dancers - there was the &amp;quot;pop&amp;quot; group performances (&amp;quot;In the Summertime&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Puff the Magic Dragon&amp;quot;!!) - and one particular one that stands out in the memory was the comedic openair.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We have all been in army meetings when something is said or done which is loaded with unfortunateness - from the CSM announcing that in the rota for organising the Saturday evening events next weeks would be &amp;quot;the Corps Secs&#039; night&amp;quot; (think about how it sounds) to the prayer for those &amp;quot;lying in their bed of sickness&amp;quot; (eugh!) and not forgetting that old favourite &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was used as an example of someone who has a fixation about a particular &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot; (for those who don&#039;t know what that is in the early army people would shout out a verse or phrase from the Bible - hence a &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot;.  In our openair we had someone who - repeatedly - used &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot; at the most inappropriate moments (like immediately after praying for Molly lying in her bed of sickness.... and the lot fell upon Jonah!!!) (you had to be there)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Quite apart from the &amp;quot;fun&amp;quot; aspect - music camps back then - as they are now - are very helpful in the development of young people.  A week of intensive practice - musical and spiritual - and getting to know others &amp;quot;of a like mind&amp;quot; was never long enough.  As I alluded to above many friends have persisted from that time and the folks from around Glasgow that I met at music camp were very much the basis for the group of friends that I socialised with for much of my later years in Glasgow.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The fact that you shared so many experiences means that even many years later there is a bond that is hard to break - for those familiar with my blog entries this again supports the &amp;quot;Red Thread&amp;quot; series of entries in that blog. There is a picture (well there are several) of the &amp;quot;orderlies&amp;quot; at one of the camps where I look around them and think that most remained lifelong friends even though they are scattered far and wide geographically!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Perhaps I didn&#039;t make enough of &amp;quot;the people&amp;quot; when writing my first post in anecdote about Castle Toward.  The reality is that the single most important part of everything I have ever done is the people I have got to know, especially those who, in some way, became part of my life for many years.  It is a theme that is strong in my other writing - the relationships and interactions we have with others are what makes &amp;quot;special&amp;quot; occasions.  Like Castle Toward, the Music Camps intensify that - and it isn&#039;t a fleeting connection - it persists over a week or so and is often rekindled many times over the years.  The red threads are pulled tight and even if they loosen somewhat through time there is still a strong bond.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are, however, far too many stories about music camps.... One concerns the workings of the mind of Speug!! I can&#039;t remember the details but one night the window in one of the boy&#039;s dormitories was broken.  For reasons which have never been entirely clear to me, Speug came to the conclusion that the culprit had broken the window whilst climbing back through it and we should therefor inspect the left foot of everyone to see if there were signs of damage!!  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hmmmm....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the &#039;difficult&#039; (and unexpected) side effects was a level of &#039;fame&#039; that made for some awkward moments.  As an orderly it wasn&#039;t long before everyone got to know who you were - within that smallish community the orderlies were the Kardashians of their time!!  Months and years later people would come up to you at some event and talk to you - and it would take a while for the penny to drop - they remembered you from music camp!!!  It really was a case of &amp;quot;Everybody knows your name&amp;quot;!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the music front when I was an orderly I very much took a back seat (quite literally) in the band - often playing 2nd horn.  At the end of the week the A Band would undertake the Sunday meetings at one of the Scottish Corps.  On this particular year it was Parkhead.  The Band had three euphonium players - two of whom could not stay over for the Sunday.  Guess who was &#039;volunteered&#039; to cover the euphonium part and to assist the young man who was left to cover for his more experienced colleagues - yep - Me!!  I had an interesting day of sight reading!!  In the &amp;quot;wind-up&amp;quot; at the end of the Sunday evening meeting there was the song &amp;quot;Simply Trusting&amp;quot; (I think it was sung by the band, but it may have been a congregational song with small band accompaniment) to the tune of &amp;quot;Will Ye No Come Back Again&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Anyone who knows the brass arrangement will remember the &amp;quot;soaring&amp;quot; euphonium part - this was an unrehearsed item and my fellow euphonium player flatly refused to even consider playing it - so - off I went again!!  I&#039;m sure it was wonderful!!!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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===West Linton Music Camps===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was, I guess, rather late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect.  It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra in Rothesay.  Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though.  Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken.  For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on.  As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp.  So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring.  My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed.  The only &#039;amendment&#039;  to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player.  It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award.  In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff.  Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!!  Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the highlights of the week was, of course, talent night.  To be honest, I have never been completely comfortable with any sort of &amp;quot;acting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;performance&amp;quot; outside my comfort zone.  I did get involved in some rather bizarre performances at music camp though - there was the male timbrel group - appearing on the stage to the strains of a minuet by Boccherini and prancing like ballet dancers - there was the &amp;quot;pop&amp;quot; group performances (&amp;quot;In the Summertime&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Puff the Magic Dragon&amp;quot;!!) - and one particular one that stands out in the memory was the comedic openair.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We have all been in army meetings when something is said or done which is loaded with unfortunateness - from the CSM announcing that in the rota for organising the Saturday evening events next weeks would be be &amp;quot;the Corps Secs&#039; night&amp;quot; (think about how it sounds) to the prayer for those &amp;quot;lying in their bed of sickness (eugh!) and not forgetting that old favourite &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was used as an example of someone who has a fixation about a particular &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot; (for those who don&#039;t know what that is in the early army people would shout out a verse or phrase from the Bible - hence a &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot;.  In our openair we had someone who - repeatedly - used &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot; at the most inappropriate moments (like immediately after praying for Molly lying in her bed of sickness.... and the lot fell upon Jonah!!!) (you had to be there)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Quite apart from the &amp;quot;fun&amp;quot; aspect - music camps back then - as they are now - are very helpful in the development of young people.  A week of intensive practice - musical and spiritual - and getting to know others &amp;quot;of a like mind&amp;quot; was never long enough.  As I alluded to above many friends have persisted from that time and the folks from around Glasgow that I met at music camp were very much the basis for the group of friends that I socialised with for much of my later years in Glasgow.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The fact that you shared so many experiences means that even many years later there is a bond that is hard to break - for those familiar with my blog entries this again supports the &amp;quot;Red Thread&amp;quot; series of entries in that blog. There is a picture (well there are several) of the &amp;quot;orderlies&amp;quot; at one of the camps where I look around them and think that most remained lifelong friends even though they are scattered far and wide geographically!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Perhaps I didn&#039;t make enough of &amp;quot;the people&amp;quot; when writing my first post in anecdote about Castle Toward.  The reality is that the single most important part of everything I have ever done is the people I have got to know, especially those who, in some way, became part of my life for many years.  It is a theme that is strong in my other writing - the relationships and interactions we have with others are what makes &amp;quot;special&amp;quot; occasions.  Like Castle Toward, the Music Camps intensify that - and it isn&#039;t a fleeting connection - it persists over a week or so and is often rekindled many times over the years.  The red threads are pulled tight and even if they loosen somewhat through time there is still a strong bond.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are, however, far too many stories about music camps.... One concerns the workings of the mind of Speug!! I can&#039;t remember the details but one night the window in one of the boy&#039;s dormitories was broken.  For reasons which have never been entirely clear to me, Speug came to the conclusion that the culprit had broken the window whilst climbing back through it and we should therefor inspect the left foot of everyone to see if there were signs of damage!!  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hmmmm....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the &#039;difficult&#039; (and unexpected) side effects was a level of &#039;fame&#039; that made for some awkward moments.  As an orderly it wasn&#039;t long before everyone got to know who you were - within that smallish community the orderlies were the Kardashians of their time!!  Months and years later people would come up to you at some event and talk to you - and it would take a while for the penny to drop - they remembered you from music camp!!!  It really was a case of &amp;quot;Everybody knows your name&amp;quot;!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the music front when I was an orderly I very much took a back seat (quite literally) in the band - often playing 2nd horn.  At the end of the week the A Band would undertake the Sunday meetings at one of the Scottish Corps.  On this particular year it was Parkhead.  The Band had three euphonium players - two of whom could not stay over for the Sunday.  Guess who was &#039;volunteered&#039; to cover the euphonium part and to assist the young man who was left to cover for his more experienced colleagues - yep - Me!!  I had an interesting day of sight reading!!  In the &amp;quot;wind-up&amp;quot; at the end of the Sunday evening meeting there was the song &amp;quot;Simply Trusting&amp;quot; (I think it was sung by the band, but it may have been a congregational song with small band accompaniment) to the tune of &amp;quot;Will Ye No Come Back Again&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Anyone who knows the brass arrangement will remember the &amp;quot;soaring&amp;quot; euphonium part - this was an unrehearsed item and my fellow euphonium player flatly refused to even consider playing it - so - off I went again!!  I&#039;m sure it was wonderful!!!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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===West Linton Music Camps===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was, I guess, rather late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect.  It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra in Rothesay.  Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though.  Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken.  For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on.  As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp.  So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring.  My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed.  The only &#039;amendment&#039;  to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player.  It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award.  In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff.  Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!!  Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the highlights of the week was, of course, talent night.  To be honest, I have never been completely comfortable with any sort of &amp;quot;acting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;performance&amp;quot; outside my comfort zone.  I did get involved in some rather bizarre performances at music camp though - there was the male timbrel group - appearing on the stage to the strains of a minuet by Boccherini and prancing like ballet dancers - there was the &amp;quot;pop&amp;quot; group performances (&amp;quot;In the Summertime&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Puff the Magic Dragon&amp;quot;!!) - and one particular one that stands out in the memory was the comedic openair.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was used as an example of someone who has a fixation about a particular &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot; (for those who don&#039;t know what that is in the early army people would shout out a verse or phrase from the Bible - hence a &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot;.  In our openair we had someone who - repeatedly - used &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot; at the most inappropriate moments (like immediately after praying for Molly lying in her bed of sickness.... and the lot fell upon Jonah!!!) (you had to be there)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We have all been in army meetings when something is said or done which is loaded with unfortunateness - from the CSM announcing that in the rota for organising the Saturday evening events next weeks would be be &amp;quot;the Corps Secs&#039; night&amp;quot; (think about how it sounds) to the prayer for those &amp;quot;lying in their bed of sickness (eugh!) and not forgetting that old favourite &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
well&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Quite apart from the &amp;quot;fun&amp;quot; aspect - music camps back then - as they are now - are very helpful in the development of young people.  A week of intensive practice - musical and spiritual - and getting to know others &amp;quot;of a like mind&amp;quot; was never long enough.  As I alluded to above many friends have persisted from that time and the folks from around Glasgow that I met at music camp were very much the basis for the group of friends that I socialised with for much of my later years in Glasgow.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The fact that you shared so many experiences means that even many years later there is a bond that is hard to break - for those familiar with my blog entries this again supports the &amp;quot;Red Thread&amp;quot; series of entries in that blog. There is a picture (well there are several) of the &amp;quot;orderlies&amp;quot; at one of the camps where I look around them and think that most remained lifelong friends even though they are scattered far and wide geographically!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Perhaps I didn&#039;t make enough of &amp;quot;the people&amp;quot; when writing my first post in anecdote about Castle Toward.  The reality is that the single most important part of everything I have ever done is the people I have got to know, especially those who, in some way, became part of my life for many years.  It is a theme that is strong in my other writing - the relationships and interactions we have with others are what makes &amp;quot;special&amp;quot; occasions.  Like Castle Toward, the Music Camps intensify that - and it isn&#039;t a fleeting connection - it persists over a week or so and is often rekindled many times over the years.  The red threads are pulled tight and even if they loosen somewhat through time there is still a strong bond.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are, however, far too many stories about music camps.... One concerns the workings of the mind of Speug!! I can&#039;t remember the details but one night the window in one of the boy&#039;s dormitories was broken.  For reasons which have never been entirely clear to me, Speug came to the conclusion that the culprit had broken the window whilst climbing back through it and we should therefor inspect the left foot of everyone to see if there were signs of damage!!  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hmmmm....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the &#039;difficult&#039; (and unexpected) side effects was a level of &#039;fame&#039; that made for some awkward moments.  As an orderly it wasn&#039;t long before everyone got to know who you were - within that smallish community the orderlies were the Kardashians of their time!!  Months and years later people would come up to you at some event and talk to you - and it would take a while for the penny to drop - they remembered you from music camp!!!  It really was a case of &amp;quot;Everybody knows your name&amp;quot;!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the music front when I was an orderly I very much took a back seat (quite literally) in the band - often playing 2nd horn.  At the end of the week the A Band would undertake the Sunday meetings at one of the Scottish Corps.  On this particular year it was Parkhead.  The Band had three euphonium players - two of whom could not stay over for the Sunday.  Guess who was &#039;volunteered&#039; to cover the euphonium part and to assist the young man who was left to cover for his more experienced colleagues - yep - Me!!  I had an interesting day of sight reading!!  In the &amp;quot;wind-up&amp;quot; at the end of the Sunday evening meeting there was the song &amp;quot;Simply Trusting&amp;quot; (I think it was sung by the band, but it may have been a congregational song with small band accompaniment) to the tune of &amp;quot;Will Ye No Come Back Again&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Anyone who knows the brass arrangement will remember the &amp;quot;soaring&amp;quot; euphonium part - this was an unrehearsed item and my fellow euphonium player flatly refused to even consider playing it - so - off I went again!!  I&#039;m sure it was wonderful!!!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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===West Linton Music Camps===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was, I guess, rather late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect.  It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra in Rothesay.  Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though.  Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken.  For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on.  As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp.  So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring.  My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed.  The only &#039;amendment&#039;  to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player.  It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award.  In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff.  Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!!  Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the highlights of the week was, of course, talent night.  To be honest, I have never been completely comfortable with any sort of &amp;quot;acting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;performance&amp;quot; outside my comfort zone.  I did get involved in some rather bizarre performances at music camp though - there was the male timbrel group - appearing on the stage to the strains of a minuet by Boccherini and prancing like ballet dancers - there was the &amp;quot;pop&amp;quot; group performances (&amp;quot;In the Summertime&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Puff the Magic Dragon&amp;quot;!!) - and one particular one that stands out in the memory was the comedic openair.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was used as an example of someone who has a fixation about a particular &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot; (for those who don&#039;t know what that is in the early army people would shout out a verse or phrase from the Bible - hence a &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot;.  In our openair we had someone who - repeatedly - used &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot; at the most inappropriate moments (like immediately after praying for Molly lying in her bed of sickness.... and the lot fell upon Jonah!!!) (you had to be there)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We have all been in army meetings when something is said or done which is loaded with unfortunateness - from the CSM announcing that in the rota for organising the Saturday evening events next weeks would be be &amp;quot;the Corps Secs&#039; night&amp;quot; (think about how it sounds) to the prayer for those &amp;quot;lying in their bed of sickness (eugh!) and not forgetting that old favourite &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Quite apart from the &amp;quot;fun&amp;quot; aspect - music camps back then - as they are now - are very helpful in the development of young people.  A week of intensive practice - musical and spiritual - and getting to know others &amp;quot;of a like mind&amp;quot; was never long enough.  As I alluded to above many friends have persisted from that time and the folks from around Glasgow that I met at music camp were very much the basis for the group of friends that I socialised with for much of my later years in Glasgow.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The fact that you shared so many experiences means that even many years later there is a bond that is hard to break - for those familiar with my blog entries this again supports the &amp;quot;Red Thread&amp;quot; series of entries in that blog. There is a picture (well there are several) of the &amp;quot;orderlies&amp;quot; at one of the camps where I look around them and think that most remained lifelong friends even though they are scattered far and wide geographically!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Perhaps I didn&#039;t make enough of &amp;quot;the people&amp;quot; when writing my first post in anecdote about Castle Toward.  The reality is that the single most important part of everything I have ever done is the people I have got to know, especially those who, in some way, became part of my life for many years.  It is a theme that is strong in my other writing - the relationships and interactions we have with others are what makes &amp;quot;special&amp;quot; occasions.  Like Castle Toward, the Music Camps intensify that - and it isn&#039;t a fleeting connection - it persists over a week or so and is often rekindled many times over the years.  The red threads are pulled tight and even if they loosen somewhat through time there is still a strong bond.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are, however, far too many stories about music camps.... One concerns the workings of the mind of Speug!! I can&#039;t remember the details but one night the window in one of the boy&#039;s dormitories was broken.  For reasons which have never been entirely clear to me, Speug came to the conclusion that the culprit had broken the window whilst climbing back through it and we should therefor inspect the left foot of everyone to see if there were signs of damage!!  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hmmmm....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the &#039;difficult&#039; (and unexpected) side effects was a level of &#039;fame&#039; that made for some awkward moments.  As an orderly it wasn&#039;t long before everyone got to know who you were - within that smallish community the orderlies were the Kardashians of their time!!  Months and years later people would come up to you at some event and talk to you - and it would take a while for the penny to drop - they remembered you from music camp!!!  It really was a case of &amp;quot;Everybody knows your name&amp;quot;!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the music front when I was an orderly I very much took a back seat (quite literally) in the band - often playing 2nd horn.  At the end of the week the A Band would undertake the Sunday meetings at one of the Scottish Corps.  On this particular year it was Parkhead.  The Band had three euphonium players - two of whom could not stay over for the Sunday.  Guess who was &#039;volunteered&#039; to cover the euphonium part and to assist the young man who was left to cover for his more experienced colleagues - yep - Me!!  I had an interesting day of sight reading!!  In the &amp;quot;wind-up&amp;quot; at the end of the Sunday evening meeting there was the song &amp;quot;Simply Trusting&amp;quot; (I think it was sung by the band, but it may have been a congregational song with small band accompaniment) to the tune of &amp;quot;Will Ye No Come Back Again&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Anyone who knows the brass arrangement will remember the &amp;quot;soaring&amp;quot; euphonium part - this was an unrehearsed item and my fellow euphonium player flatly refused to even consider playing it - so - off I went again!!  I&#039;m sure it was wonderful!!!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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===West Linton Music Camps===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was, I guess, rather late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect.  It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra in Rothesay.  Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though.  Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken.  For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on.  As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp.  So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring.  My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed.  The only &#039;amendment&#039;  to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player.  It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award.  In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff.  Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!!  Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the highlights of the week was, of course, talent night.  To be honest, I have never been completely comfortable with any sort of &amp;quot;acting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;performance&amp;quot; outside my comfort zone.  I did get involved in some rather bizarre performances at music camp though - there was the male timbrel group - appearing on the stage to the strains of a minuet by Boccherini and prancing like ballet dancers - there was the &amp;quot;pop&amp;quot; group performances (&amp;quot;In the Summertime&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Puff the Magic Dragon&amp;quot;!!) - and one particular one that stands out in the memory was the comedic openair.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was used as an example of someone who has a fixation about a particular &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot; (for those who don&#039;t know what that is in the early army people would shout out a verse or phrase from the Bible - hence a &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot;.  In our openair we had someone who - repeatedly - used &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot; at the most inappropriate moments (like immediately after praying for Molly lying in her bed of sickness.... and the lot fell upon Jonah!!!) (you had to be there)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We have all been in army meetings when something is said or done which is loaded with unfortunateness - from the CSM announcing that in the rota for organising the Saturday evening events next weeks would be be &amp;quot;the Corps Secs&#039; night&amp;quot; (think about how it sounds) to the prayer for those &amp;quot;lying in their bed of sickness (eugh!) and not forgetting &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Quite apart from the &amp;quot;fun&amp;quot; aspect - music camps back then - as they are now - are very helpful in the development of young people.  A week of intensive practice - musical and spiritual - and getting to know others &amp;quot;of a like mind&amp;quot; was never long enough.  As I alluded to above many friends have persisted from that time and the folks from around Glasgow that I met at music camp were very much the basis for the group of friends that I socialised with for much of my later years in Glasgow.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The fact that you shared so many experiences means that even many years later there is a bond that is hard to break - for those familiar with my blog entries this again supports the &amp;quot;Red Thread&amp;quot; series of entries in that blog. There is a picture (well there are several) of the &amp;quot;orderlies&amp;quot; at one of the camps where I look around them and think that most remained lifelong friends even though they are scattered far and wide geographically!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Perhaps I didn&#039;t make enough of &amp;quot;the people&amp;quot; when writing my first post in anecdote about Castle Toward.  The reality is that the single most important part of everything I have ever done is the people I have got to know, especially those who, in some way, became part of my life for many years.  It is a theme that is strong in my other writing - the relationships and interactions we have with others are what makes &amp;quot;special&amp;quot; occasions.  Like Castle Toward, the Music Camps intensify that - and it isn&#039;t a fleeting connection - it persists over a week or so and is often rekindled many times over the years.  The red threads are pulled tight and even if they loosen somewhat through time there is still a strong bond.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are, however, far too many stories about music camps.... One concerns the workings of the mind of Speug!! I can&#039;t remember the details but one night the window in one of the boy&#039;s dormitories was broken.  For reasons which have never been entirely clear to me, Speug came to the conclusion that the culprit had broken the window whilst climbing back through it and we should therefor inspect the left foot of everyone to see if there were signs of damage!!  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hmmmm....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the &#039;difficult&#039; (and unexpected) side effects was a level of &#039;fame&#039; that made for some awkward moments.  As an orderly it wasn&#039;t long before everyone got to know who you were - within that smallish community the orderlies were the Kardashians of their time!!  Months and years later people would come up to you at some event and talk to you - and it would take a while for the penny to drop - they remembered you from music camp!!!  It really was a case of &amp;quot;Everybody knows your name&amp;quot;!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the music front when I was an orderly I very much took a back seat (quite literally) in the band - often playing 2nd horn.  At the end of the week the A Band would undertake the Sunday meetings at one of the Scottish Corps.  On this particular year it was Parkhead.  The Band had three euphonium players - two of whom could not stay over for the Sunday.  Guess who was &#039;volunteered&#039; to cover the euphonium part and to assist the young man who was left to cover for his more experienced colleagues - yep - Me!!  I had an interesting day of sight reading!!  In the &amp;quot;wind-up&amp;quot; at the end of the Sunday evening meeting there was the song &amp;quot;Simply Trusting&amp;quot; (I think it was sung by the band, but it may have been a congregational song with small band accompaniment) to the tune of &amp;quot;Will Ye No Come Back Again&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Anyone who knows the brass arrangement will remember the &amp;quot;soaring&amp;quot; euphonium part - this was an unrehearsed item and my fellow euphonium player flatly refused to even consider playing it - so - off I went again!!  I&#039;m sure it was wonderful!!!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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===West Linton Music Camps===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was, I guess, rather late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect.  It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra in Rothesay.  Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though.  Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken.  For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on.  As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp.  So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring.  My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed.  The only &#039;amendment&#039;  to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player.  It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award.  In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff.  Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!!  Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the highlights of the week was, of course, talent night.  To be honest, I have never been completely comfortable with any sort of &amp;quot;acting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;performance&amp;quot; outside my comfort zone.  I did get involved in some rather bizarre performances at music camp though - there was the male timbrel group - appearing on the stage to the strains of a minuet by Boccherini and prancing like ballet dancers - there was the &amp;quot;pop&amp;quot; group performances (&amp;quot;In the Summertime&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Puff the Magic Dragon&amp;quot;!!) - and one particular one that stands out in the memory was the comedic openair.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was used as an example of someone who has a fixation about a particular &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot; (for those who don&#039;t know what that is in the early army people would shout out a verse or phrase from the Bible - hence a &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot;.  In our openair we had someone who - repeatedly - used &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot; at the most inappropriate moments (like immediately after praying for Molly lying in her bed of sickness.... and the lot fell upon Jonah!!!) (you had to be there)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We have all been in army meetings when something is said or done which is loaded with unfortunateness - from the CSM announcing that in the rota for organising the Saturday evening events next weeks would be be &amp;quot;the Corps Secs&#039; night&amp;quot; (think about how it sounds) to the prayer for those &amp;quot;lying in their bed of sickness&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Quite apart from the &amp;quot;fun&amp;quot; aspect - music camps back then - as they are now - are very helpful in the development of young people.  A week of intensive practice - musical and spiritual - and getting to know others &amp;quot;of a like mind&amp;quot; was never long enough.  As I alluded to above many friends have persisted from that time and the folks from around Glasgow that I met at music camp were very much the basis for the group of friends that I socialised with for much of my later years in Glasgow.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The fact that you shared so many experiences means that even many years later there is a bond that is hard to break - for those familiar with my blog entries this again supports the &amp;quot;Red Thread&amp;quot; series of entries in that blog. There is a picture (well there are several) of the &amp;quot;orderlies&amp;quot; at one of the camps where I look around them and think that most remained lifelong friends even though they are scattered far and wide geographically!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Perhaps I didn&#039;t make enough of &amp;quot;the people&amp;quot; when writing my first post in anecdote about Castle Toward.  The reality is that the single most important part of everything I have ever done is the people I have got to know, especially those who, in some way, became part of my life for many years.  It is a theme that is strong in my other writing - the relationships and interactions we have with others are what makes &amp;quot;special&amp;quot; occasions.  Like Castle Toward, the Music Camps intensify that - and it isn&#039;t a fleeting connection - it persists over a week or so and is often rekindled many times over the years.  The red threads are pulled tight and even if they loosen somewhat through time there is still a strong bond.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are, however, far too many stories about music camps.... One concerns the workings of the mind of Speug!! I can&#039;t remember the details but one night the window in one of the boy&#039;s dormitories was broken.  For reasons which have never been entirely clear to me, Speug came to the conclusion that the culprit had broken the window whilst climbing back through it and we should therefor inspect the left foot of everyone to see if there were signs of damage!!  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hmmmm....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the &#039;difficult&#039; (and unexpected) side effects was a level of &#039;fame&#039; that made for some awkward moments.  As an orderly it wasn&#039;t long before everyone got to know who you were - within that smallish community the orderlies were the Kardashians of their time!!  Months and years later people would come up to you at some event and talk to you - and it would take a while for the penny to drop - they remembered you from music camp!!!  It really was a case of &amp;quot;Everybody knows your name&amp;quot;!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the music front when I was an orderly I very much took a back seat (quite literally) in the band - often playing 2nd horn.  At the end of the week the A Band would undertake the Sunday meetings at one of the Scottish Corps.  On this particular year it was Parkhead.  The Band had three euphonium players - two of whom could not stay over for the Sunday.  Guess who was &#039;volunteered&#039; to cover the euphonium part and to assist the young man who was left to cover for his more experienced colleagues - yep - Me!!  I had an interesting day of sight reading!!  In the &amp;quot;wind-up&amp;quot; at the end of the Sunday evening meeting there was the song &amp;quot;Simply Trusting&amp;quot; (I think it was sung by the band, but it may have been a congregational song with small band accompaniment) to the tune of &amp;quot;Will Ye No Come Back Again&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Anyone who knows the brass arrangement will remember the &amp;quot;soaring&amp;quot; euphonium part - this was an unrehearsed item and my fellow euphonium player flatly refused to even consider playing it - so - off I went again!!  I&#039;m sure it was wonderful!!!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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===West Linton Music Camps===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was, I guess, rather late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect.  It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra in Rothesay.  Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though.  Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken.  For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on.  As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp.  So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring.  My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed.  The only &#039;amendment&#039;  to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player.  It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award.  In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff.  Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!!  Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the highlights of the week was, of course, talent night.  To be honest, I have never been completely comfortable with any sort of &amp;quot;acting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;performance&amp;quot; outside my comfort zone.  I did get involved in some rather bizarre performances at music camp though - there was the male timbrel group - appearing on the stage to the strains of a minuet by Boccherini and prancing like ballet dancers - there was the &amp;quot;pop&amp;quot; group performances (&amp;quot;In the Summertime&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Puff the Magic Dragon&amp;quot;!!) - and one particular one that stands out in the memory was the comedic openair.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was used as an example of someone who has a fixation about a particular &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot; (for those who don&#039;t know what that is in the early army people would shout out a verse or phrase from the Bible - hence a &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot;.  In our openair we had someone who - repeatedly - used &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot; at the most inappropriate moments (like immediately after praying for Molly lying in her bed of sickness.... and the lot fell upon Jonah!!!) (you had to be there)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We have all been in army meetings when something is said or done which is loaded with unfortunateness - from the CSM announcing that in the rota for organising the Saturday evening events next weeks would be be &amp;quot;the Corps Secs&#039; night&amp;quot; (think about how it sounds) to the prayer for those &amp;quot;lying in their bed of sickness &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Quite apart from the &amp;quot;fun&amp;quot; aspect - music camps back then - as they are now - are very helpful in the development of young people.  A week of intensive practice - musical and spiritual - and getting to know others &amp;quot;of a like mind&amp;quot; was never long enough.  As I alluded to above many friends have persisted from that time and the folks from around Glasgow that I met at music camp were very much the basis for the group of friends that I socialised with for much of my later years in Glasgow.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The fact that you shared so many experiences means that even many years later there is a bond that is hard to break - for those familiar with my blog entries this again supports the &amp;quot;Red Thread&amp;quot; series of entries in that blog. There is a picture (well there are several) of the &amp;quot;orderlies&amp;quot; at one of the camps where I look around them and think that most remained lifelong friends even though they are scattered far and wide geographically!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Perhaps I didn&#039;t make enough of &amp;quot;the people&amp;quot; when writing my first post in anecdote about Castle Toward.  The reality is that the single most important part of everything I have ever done is the people I have got to know, especially those who, in some way, became part of my life for many years.  It is a theme that is strong in my other writing - the relationships and interactions we have with others are what makes &amp;quot;special&amp;quot; occasions.  Like Castle Toward, the Music Camps intensify that - and it isn&#039;t a fleeting connection - it persists over a week or so and is often rekindled many times over the years.  The red threads are pulled tight and even if they loosen somewhat through time there is still a strong bond.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are, however, far too many stories about music camps.... One concerns the workings of the mind of Speug!! I can&#039;t remember the details but one night the window in one of the boy&#039;s dormitories was broken.  For reasons which have never been entirely clear to me, Speug came to the conclusion that the culprit had broken the window whilst climbing back through it and we should therefor inspect the left foot of everyone to see if there were signs of damage!!  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hmmmm....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the &#039;difficult&#039; (and unexpected) side effects was a level of &#039;fame&#039; that made for some awkward moments.  As an orderly it wasn&#039;t long before everyone got to know who you were - within that smallish community the orderlies were the Kardashians of their time!!  Months and years later people would come up to you at some event and talk to you - and it would take a while for the penny to drop - they remembered you from music camp!!!  It really was a case of &amp;quot;Everybody knows your name&amp;quot;!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the music front when I was an orderly I very much took a back seat (quite literally) in the band - often playing 2nd horn.  At the end of the week the A Band would undertake the Sunday meetings at one of the Scottish Corps.  On this particular year it was Parkhead.  The Band had three euphonium players - two of whom could not stay over for the Sunday.  Guess who was &#039;volunteered&#039; to cover the euphonium part and to assist the young man who was left to cover for his more experienced colleagues - yep - Me!!  I had an interesting day of sight reading!!  In the &amp;quot;wind-up&amp;quot; at the end of the Sunday evening meeting there was the song &amp;quot;Simply Trusting&amp;quot; (I think it was sung by the band, but it may have been a congregational song with small band accompaniment) to the tune of &amp;quot;Will Ye No Come Back Again&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Anyone who knows the brass arrangement will remember the &amp;quot;soaring&amp;quot; euphonium part - this was an unrehearsed item and my fellow euphonium player flatly refused to even consider playing it - so - off I went again!!  I&#039;m sure it was wonderful!!!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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[[Category:SA]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===West Linton Music Camps===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was, I guess, rather late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect.  It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra in Rothesay.  Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though.  Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken.  For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on.  As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp.  So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring.  My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed.  The only &#039;amendment&#039;  to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player.  It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award.  In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff.  Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!!  Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the highlights of the week was, of course, talent night.  To be honest, I have never been completely comfortable with any sort of &amp;quot;acting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;performance&amp;quot; outside my comfort zone.  I did get involved in some rather bizarre performances at music camp though - there was the male timbrel group - appearing on the stage to the strains of a minuet by Boccherini and prancing like ballet dancers - there was the &amp;quot;pop&amp;quot; group performances (&amp;quot;In the Summertime&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Puff the Magic Dragon&amp;quot;!!) - and one particular one that stands out in the memory was the comedic openair.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was used as an example of someone who has a fixation about a particular &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot; (for those who don&#039;t know what that is in the early army people would shout out a verse or phrase from the Bible - hence a &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot;.  In our openair we had someone who - repeatedly - used &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot; at the most inappropriate moments (like immediately after praying for Molly lying in her bed of sickness.... and the lot fell upon Jonah!!!) (you had to be there)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We have all been in army meetings when something is said or done which is loaded with unfortunateness - from the CSM announcing that in the rota for organising the Saturday evening events next weeks would be be &amp;quot;the Corps Secs&#039; night&amp;quot; (think about how it sounds) to the prayer for those &amp;quot;lying in their bed of sickness&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Quite apart from the &amp;quot;fun&amp;quot; aspect - music camps back then - as they are now - are very helpful in the development of young people.  A week of intensive practice - musical and spiritual - and getting to know others &amp;quot;of a like mind&amp;quot; was never long enough.  As I alluded to above many friends have persisted from that time and the folks from around Glasgow that I met at music camp were very much the basis for the group of friends that I socialised with for much of my later years in Glasgow.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The fact that you shared so many experiences means that even many years later there is a bond that is hard to break - for those familiar with my blog entries this again supports the &amp;quot;Red Thread&amp;quot; series of entries in that blog. There is a picture (well there are several) of the &amp;quot;orderlies&amp;quot; at one of the camps where I look around them and think that most remained lifelong friends even though they are scattered far and wide geographically!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Perhaps I didn&#039;t make enough of &amp;quot;the people&amp;quot; when writing my first post in anecdote about Castle Toward.  The reality is that the single most important part of everything I have ever done is the people I have got to know, especially those who, in some way, became part of my life for many years.  It is a theme that is strong in my other writing - the relationships and interactions we have with others are what makes &amp;quot;special&amp;quot; occasions.  Like Castle Toward, the Music Camps intensify that - and it isn&#039;t a fleeting connection - it persists over a week or so and is often rekindled many times over the years.  The red threads are pulled tight and even if they loosen somewhat through time there is still a strong bond.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are, however, far too many stories about music camps.... One concerns the workings of the mind of Speug!! I can&#039;t remember the details but one night the window in one of the boy&#039;s dormitories was broken.  For reasons which have never been entirely clear to me, Speug came to the conclusion that the culprit had broken the window whilst climbing back through it and we should therefor inspect the left foot of everyone to see if there were signs of damage!!  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hmmmm....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the &#039;difficult&#039; (and unexpected) side effects was a level of &#039;fame&#039; that made for some awkward moments.  As an orderly it wasn&#039;t long before everyone got to know who you were - within that smallish community the orderlies were the Kardashians of their time!!  Months and years later people would come up to you at some event and talk to you - and it would take a while for the penny to drop - they remembered you from music camp!!!  It really was a case of &amp;quot;Everybody knows your name&amp;quot;!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the music front when I was an orderly I very much took a back seat (quite literally) in the band - often playing 2nd horn.  At the end of the week the A Band would undertake the Sunday meetings at one of the Scottish Corps.  On this particular year it was Parkhead.  The Band had three euphonium players - two of whom could not stay over for the Sunday.  Guess who was &#039;volunteered&#039; to cover the euphonium part and to assist the young man who was left to cover for his more experienced colleagues - yep - Me!!  I had an interesting day of sight reading!!  In the &amp;quot;wind-up&amp;quot; at the end of the Sunday evening meeting there was the song &amp;quot;Simply Trusting&amp;quot; (I think it was sung by the band, but it may have been a congregational song with small band accompaniment) to the tune of &amp;quot;Will Ye No Come Back Again&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Anyone who knows the brass arrangement will remember the &amp;quot;soaring&amp;quot; euphonium part - this was an unrehearsed item and my fellow euphonium player flatly refused to even consider playing it - so - off I went again!!  I&#039;m sure it was wonderful!!!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Scottish SA Music Camp</title>
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===West Linton Music Camps===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was, I guess, rather late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect.  It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra in Rothesay.  Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though.  Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken.  For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on.  As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp.  So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring.  My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed.  The only &#039;amendment&#039;  to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player.  It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award.  In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff.  Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!!  Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the highlights of the week was, of course, talent night.  To be honest, I have never been completely comfortable with any sort of &amp;quot;acting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;performance&amp;quot; outside my comfort zone.  I did get involved in some rather bizarre performances at music camp though - there was the male timbrel group - appearing on the stage to the strains of a minuet by Boccherini and prancing like ballet dancers - there was the &amp;quot;pop&amp;quot; group performances (&amp;quot;In the Summertime&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Puff the Magic Dragon&amp;quot;!!) - and one particular one that stands out in the memory was the comedic openair.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was used as an example of someone who has a fixation about a particular &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot; (for those who don&#039;t know what that is in the early army people would shout out a verse or phrase from the Bible - hence a &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot;.  In our openair we had someone who - repeatedly - used &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot; at the most inappropriate moments (like immediately after praying for Molly lying in her bed of sickness.... and the lot fell upon Jonah!!!) (you had to be there)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We have all been in army meetings when something is said or done which is loaded with unfortunateness - from the CSM announcing that in the rota for organising the Saturday evening events next weeks would be &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Quite apart from the &amp;quot;fun&amp;quot; aspect - music camps back then - as they are now - are very helpful in the development of young people.  A week of intensive practice - musical and spiritual - and getting to know others &amp;quot;of a like mind&amp;quot; was never long enough.  As I alluded to above many friends have persisted from that time and the folks from around Glasgow that I met at music camp were very much the basis for the group of friends that I socialised with for much of my later years in Glasgow.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The fact that you shared so many experiences means that even many years later there is a bond that is hard to break - for those familiar with my blog entries this again supports the &amp;quot;Red Thread&amp;quot; series of entries in that blog. There is a picture (well there are several) of the &amp;quot;orderlies&amp;quot; at one of the camps where I look around them and think that most remained lifelong friends even though they are scattered far and wide geographically!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Perhaps I didn&#039;t make enough of &amp;quot;the people&amp;quot; when writing my first post in anecdote about Castle Toward.  The reality is that the single most important part of everything I have ever done is the people I have got to know, especially those who, in some way, became part of my life for many years.  It is a theme that is strong in my other writing - the relationships and interactions we have with others are what makes &amp;quot;special&amp;quot; occasions.  Like Castle Toward, the Music Camps intensify that - and it isn&#039;t a fleeting connection - it persists over a week or so and is often rekindled many times over the years.  The red threads are pulled tight and even if they loosen somewhat through time there is still a strong bond.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are, however, far too many stories about music camps.... One concerns the workings of the mind of Speug!! I can&#039;t remember the details but one night the window in one of the boy&#039;s dormitories was broken.  For reasons which have never been entirely clear to me, Speug came to the conclusion that the culprit had broken the window whilst climbing back through it and we should therefor inspect the left foot of everyone to see if there were signs of damage!!  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hmmmm....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the &#039;difficult&#039; (and unexpected) side effects was a level of &#039;fame&#039; that made for some awkward moments.  As an orderly it wasn&#039;t long before everyone got to know who you were - within that smallish community the orderlies were the Kardashians of their time!!  Months and years later people would come up to you at some event and talk to you - and it would take a while for the penny to drop - they remembered you from music camp!!!  It really was a case of &amp;quot;Everybody knows your name&amp;quot;!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the music front when I was an orderly I very much took a back seat (quite literally) in the band - often playing 2nd horn.  At the end of the week the A Band would undertake the Sunday meetings at one of the Scottish Corps.  On this particular year it was Parkhead.  The Band had three euphonium players - two of whom could not stay over for the Sunday.  Guess who was &#039;volunteered&#039; to cover the euphonium part and to assist the young man who was left to cover for his more experienced colleagues - yep - Me!!  I had an interesting day of sight reading!!  In the &amp;quot;wind-up&amp;quot; at the end of the Sunday evening meeting there was the song &amp;quot;Simply Trusting&amp;quot; (I think it was sung by the band, but it may have been a congregational song with small band accompaniment) to the tune of &amp;quot;Will Ye No Come Back Again&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Anyone who knows the brass arrangement will remember the &amp;quot;soaring&amp;quot; euphonium part - this was an unrehearsed item and my fellow euphonium player flatly refused to even consider playing it - so - off I went again!!  I&#039;m sure it was wonderful!!!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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===West Linton Music Camps===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was, I guess, rather late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect.  It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra in Rothesay.  Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though.  Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken.  For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on.  As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp.  So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring.  My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed.  The only &#039;amendment&#039;  to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player.  It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award.  In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff.  Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!!  Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the highlights of the week was, of course, talent night.  To be honest, I have never been completely comfortable with any sort of &amp;quot;acting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;performance&amp;quot; outside my comfort zone.  I did get involved in some rather bizarre performances at music camp though - there was the male timbrel group - appearing on the stage to the strains of a minuet by Boccherini and prancing like ballet dancers - there was the &amp;quot;pop&amp;quot; group performances (&amp;quot;In the Summertime&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Puff the Magic Dragon&amp;quot;!!) - and one particular one that stands out in the memory was the comedic openair.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was used as an example of someone who has a fixation about a particular &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot; (for those who don&#039;t know what that is in the early army people would shout out a verse or phrase from the Bible - hence a &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot;.  In our openair we had someone who - repeatedly - used &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot; at the most inappropriate moments (like immediately after praying for Molly lying in her bed of sickness.... and the lot fell upon Jonah!!!) (you had to be there)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We have all been in army meetings when something is said or done which is loaded with unfortunateness&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Quite apart from the &amp;quot;fun&amp;quot; aspect - music camps back then - as they are now - are very helpful in the development of young people.  A week of intensive practice - musical and spiritual - and getting to know others &amp;quot;of a like mind&amp;quot; was never long enough.  As I alluded to above many friends have persisted from that time and the folks from around Glasgow that I met at music camp were very much the basis for the group of friends that I socialised with for much of my later years in Glasgow.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The fact that you shared so many experiences means that even many years later there is a bond that is hard to break - for those familiar with my blog entries this again supports the &amp;quot;Red Thread&amp;quot; series of entries in that blog. There is a picture (well there are several) of the &amp;quot;orderlies&amp;quot; at one of the camps where I look around them and think that most remained lifelong friends even though they are scattered far and wide geographically!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Perhaps I didn&#039;t make enough of &amp;quot;the people&amp;quot; when writing my first post in anecdote about Castle Toward.  The reality is that the single most important part of everything I have ever done is the people I have got to know, especially those who, in some way, became part of my life for many years.  It is a theme that is strong in my other writing - the relationships and interactions we have with others are what makes &amp;quot;special&amp;quot; occasions.  Like Castle Toward, the Music Camps intensify that - and it isn&#039;t a fleeting connection - it persists over a week or so and is often rekindled many times over the years.  The red threads are pulled tight and even if they loosen somewhat through time there is still a strong bond.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are, however, far too many stories about music camps.... One concerns the workings of the mind of Speug!! I can&#039;t remember the details but one night the window in one of the boy&#039;s dormitories was broken.  For reasons which have never been entirely clear to me, Speug came to the conclusion that the culprit had broken the window whilst climbing back through it and we should therefor inspect the left foot of everyone to see if there were signs of damage!!  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hmmmm....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the &#039;difficult&#039; (and unexpected) side effects was a level of &#039;fame&#039; that made for some awkward moments.  As an orderly it wasn&#039;t long before everyone got to know who you were - within that smallish community the orderlies were the Kardashians of their time!!  Months and years later people would come up to you at some event and talk to you - and it would take a while for the penny to drop - they remembered you from music camp!!!  It really was a case of &amp;quot;Everybody knows your name&amp;quot;!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the music front when I was an orderly I very much took a back seat (quite literally) in the band - often playing 2nd horn.  At the end of the week the A Band would undertake the Sunday meetings at one of the Scottish Corps.  On this particular year it was Parkhead.  The Band had three euphonium players - two of whom could not stay over for the Sunday.  Guess who was &#039;volunteered&#039; to cover the euphonium part and to assist the young man who was left to cover for his more experienced colleagues - yep - Me!!  I had an interesting day of sight reading!!  In the &amp;quot;wind-up&amp;quot; at the end of the Sunday evening meeting there was the song &amp;quot;Simply Trusting&amp;quot; (I think it was sung by the band, but it may have been a congregational song with small band accompaniment) to the tune of &amp;quot;Will Ye No Come Back Again&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Anyone who knows the brass arrangement will remember the &amp;quot;soaring&amp;quot; euphonium part - this was an unrehearsed item and my fellow euphonium player flatly refused to even consider playing it - so - off I went again!!  I&#039;m sure it was wonderful!!!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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[[Category:SA]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===West Linton Music Camps===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was, I guess, rather late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect.  It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra in Rothesay.  Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though.  Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken.  For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on.  As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp.  So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring.  My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed.  The only &#039;amendment&#039;  to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player.  It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award.  In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff.  Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!!  Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the highlights of the week was, of course, talent night.  To be honest, I have never been completely comfortable with any sort of &amp;quot;acting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;performance&amp;quot; outside my comfort zone.  I did get involved in some rather bizarre performances at music camp though - there was the male timbrel group - appearing on the stage to the strains of a minuet by Boccherini and prancing like ballet dancers - there was the &amp;quot;pop&amp;quot; group performances (&amp;quot;In the Summertime&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Puff the Magic Dragon&amp;quot;!!) - and one particular one that stands out in the memory was the comedic openair.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was used as an example of someone who has a fixation about a particular &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot; (for those who don&#039;t know what that is in the early army people would shout out a verse or phrase from the Bible - hence a &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot;.  In our openair we had someone who - repeatedly - used &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot; at the most inappropriate moments (like immediately after praying for Molly lying in her bed of sickness.... and the lot fell upon Jonah!!!) (you had to be there)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Quite apart from the &amp;quot;fun&amp;quot; aspect - music camps back then - as they are now - are very helpful in the development of young people.  A week of intensive practice - musical and spiritual - and getting to know others &amp;quot;of a like mind&amp;quot; was never long enough.  As I alluded to above many friends have persisted from that time and the folks from around Glasgow that I met at music camp were very much the basis for the group of friends that I socialised with for much of my later years in Glasgow.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The fact that you shared so many experiences means that even many years later there is a bond that is hard to break - for those familiar with my blog entries this again supports the &amp;quot;Red Thread&amp;quot; series of entries in that blog. There is a picture (well there are several) of the &amp;quot;orderlies&amp;quot; at one of the camps where I look around them and think that most remained lifelong friends even though they are scattered far and wide geographically!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Perhaps I didn&#039;t make enough of &amp;quot;the people&amp;quot; when writing my first post in anecdote about Castle Toward.  The reality is that the single most important part of everything I have ever done is the people I have got to know, especially those who, in some way, became part of my life for many years.  It is a theme that is strong in my other writing - the relationships and interactions we have with others are what makes &amp;quot;special&amp;quot; occasions.  Like Castle Toward, the Music Camps intensify that - and it isn&#039;t a fleeting connection - it persists over a week or so and is often rekindled many times over the years.  The red threads are pulled tight and even if they loosen somewhat through time there is still a strong bond.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are, however, far too many stories about music camps.... One concerns the workings of the mind of Speug!! I can&#039;t remember the details but one night the window in one of the boy&#039;s dormitories was broken.  For reasons which have never been entirely clear to me, Speug came to the conclusion that the culprit had broken the window whilst climbing back through it and we should therefor inspect the left foot of everyone to see if there were signs of damage!!  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hmmmm....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the &#039;difficult&#039; (and unexpected) side effects was a level of &#039;fame&#039; that made for some awkward moments.  As an orderly it wasn&#039;t long before everyone got to know who you were - within that smallish community the orderlies were the Kardashians of their time!!  Months and years later people would come up to you at some event and talk to you - and it would take a while for the penny to drop - they remembered you from music camp!!!  It really was a case of &amp;quot;Everybody knows your name&amp;quot;!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the music front when I was an orderly I very much took a back seat (quite literally) in the band - often playing 2nd horn.  At the end of the week the A Band would undertake the Sunday meetings at one of the Scottish Corps.  On this particular year it was Parkhead.  The Band had three euphonium players - two of whom could not stay over for the Sunday.  Guess who was &#039;volunteered&#039; to cover the euphonium part and to assist the young man who was left to cover for his more experienced colleagues - yep - Me!!  I had an interesting day of sight reading!!  In the &amp;quot;wind-up&amp;quot; at the end of the Sunday evening meeting there was the song &amp;quot;Simply Trusting&amp;quot; (I think it was sung by the band, but it may have been a congregational song with small band accompaniment) to the tune of &amp;quot;Will Ye No Come Back Again&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Anyone who knows the brass arrangement will remember the &amp;quot;soaring&amp;quot; euphonium part - this was an unrehearsed item and my fellow euphonium player flatly refused to even consider playing it - so - off I went again!!  I&#039;m sure it was wonderful!!!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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===West Linton Music Camps===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was, I guess, rather late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect.  It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra in Rothesay.  Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though.  Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken.  For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on.  As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp.  So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring.  My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed.  The only &#039;amendment&#039;  to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player.  It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award.  In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff.  Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!!  Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was used as an example of someone who has a fixation about a particular &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot; (for those who don&#039;t know what that is in the early army people would shout out a verse or phrase from the Bible - hence a &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot;.  In our openair we had someone who - repeatedly - used &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot; at the most inappropriate moments (like immediately after praying for Molly lying in her bed of sickness.... and the lot fell upon Jonah!!!) (you had to be there)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Quite apart from the &amp;quot;fun&amp;quot; aspect - music camps back then - as they are now - are very helpful in the development of young people.  A week of intensive practice - musical and spiritual - and getting to know others &amp;quot;of a like mind&amp;quot; was never long enough.  As I alluded to above many friends have persisted from that time and the folks from around Glasgow that I met at music camp were very much the basis for the group of friends that I socialised with for much of my later years in Glasgow.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The fact that you shared so many experiences means that even many years later there is a bond that is hard to break - for those familiar with my blog entries this again supports the &amp;quot;Red Thread&amp;quot; series of entries in that blog. There is a picture (well there are several) of the &amp;quot;orderlies&amp;quot; at one of the camps where I look around them and think that most remained lifelong friends even though they are scattered far and wide geographically!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Perhaps I didn&#039;t make enough of &amp;quot;the people&amp;quot; when writing my first post in anecdote about Castle Toward.  The reality is that the single most important part of everything I have ever done is the people I have got to know, especially those who, in some way, became part of my life for many years.  It is a theme that is strong in my other writing - the relationships and interactions we have with others are what makes &amp;quot;special&amp;quot; occasions.  Like Castle Toward, the Music Camps intensify that - and it isn&#039;t a fleeting connection - it persists over a week or so and is often rekindled many times over the years.  The red threads are pulled tight and even if they loosen somewhat through time there is still a strong bond.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are, however, far too many stories about music camps.... One concerns the workings of the mind of Speug!! I can&#039;t remember the details but one night the window in one of the boy&#039;s dormitories was broken.  For reasons which have never been entirely clear to me, Speug came to the conclusion that the culprit had broken the window whilst climbing back through it and we should therefor inspect the left foot of everyone to see if there were signs of damage!!  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hmmmm....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the &#039;difficult&#039; (and unexpected) side effects was a level of &#039;fame&#039; that made for some awkward moments.  As an orderly it wasn&#039;t long before everyone got to know who you were - within that smallish community the orderlies were the Kardashians of their time!!  Months and years later people would come up to you at some event and talk to you - and it would take a while for the penny to drop - they remembered you from music camp!!!  It really was a case of &amp;quot;Everybody knows your name&amp;quot;!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the music front when I was an orderly I very much took a back seat (quite literally) in the band - often playing 2nd horn.  At the end of the week the A Band would undertake the Sunday meetings at one of the Scottish Corps.  On this particular year it was Parkhead.  The Band had three euphonium players - two of whom could not stay over for the Sunday.  Guess who was &#039;volunteered&#039; to cover the euphonium part and to assist the young man who was left to cover for his more experienced colleagues - yep - Me!!  I had an interesting day of sight reading!!  In the &amp;quot;wind-up&amp;quot; at the end of the Sunday evening meeting there was the song &amp;quot;Simply Trusting&amp;quot; (I think it was sung by the band, but it may have been a congregational song with small band accompaniment) to the tune of &amp;quot;Will Ye No Come Back Again&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Anyone who knows the brass arrangement will remember the &amp;quot;soaring&amp;quot; euphonium part - this was an unrehearsed item and my fellow euphonium player flatly refused to even consider playing it - so - off I went again!!  I&#039;m sure it was wonderful!!!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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===West Linton Music Camps===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was, I guess, rather late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect.  It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra in Rothesay.  Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though.  Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken.  For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on.  As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp.  So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring.  My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed.  The only &#039;amendment&#039;  to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player.  It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award.  In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff.  Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!!  Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was used as an example of someone who has a fixation about a particular &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot; (for those who don&#039;t know what that is in the early army people would shout out a verse or phrase from the Bible - hence a &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot;.  In our openair we had someone who - repeatedly - used &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot; at the most inappropriate moments (like immediately after praying for Molly lying in her bed of sickness.... and the lot fell upon Jonah!!!) (you had to be there)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Quite apart from the &amp;quot;fun&amp;quot; aspect - music camps back then - as they are now - are very helpful in the development of young people.  A week of intensive practice - musical and spiritual - and getting to know others &amp;quot;of a like mind&amp;quot; was never long enough.  As I alluded to above many friends have persisted from that time and the folks from around Glasgow that I met at music camp were very much the basis for the group of friends that I socialised with for much of my later years in Glasgow.&lt;br /&gt;
One of the &#039;difficult&#039; (and unexpected) side effects was a level of &#039;fame&#039; that made for some awkward moments.  As an orderly it wasn&#039;t long before everyone got to know who you were - within that smallish community the orderlies were the Kardashians of their time!!  Months and years later people would come up to you at some event and talk to you - and it would take a while for the penny to drop - they remembered you from music camp!!!  It really was a case of &amp;quot;Everybody knows your name&amp;quot;!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the music front when I was an orderly I very much took a back seat (quite literally) in the band - often playing 2nd horn.  At the end of the week the A Band would undertake the Sunday meetings at one of the Scottish Corps.  On this particular year it was Parkhead.  The Band had three euphonium players - two of whom could not stay over for the Sunday.  Guess who was &#039;volunteered&#039; to cover the euphonium part and to assist the young man who was left to cover for his more experienced colleagues - yep - Me!!  I had an interesting day of sight reading!!  In the &amp;quot;wind-up&amp;quot; at the end of the Sunday evening meeting there was the song &amp;quot;Simply Trusting&amp;quot; (I think it was sung by the band, but it may have been a congregational song with small band accompaniment) to the tune of &amp;quot;Will Ye No Come Back Again&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Anyone who knows the brass arrangement will remember the &amp;quot;soaring&amp;quot; euphonium part - this was an unrehearsed item and my fellow euphonium player flatly refused to even consider playing it - so - off I went again!!  I&#039;m sure it was wonderful!!!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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===West Linton Music Camps===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was, I guess, rather late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect.  It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra in Rothesay.  Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though.  Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken.  For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on.  As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp.  So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring.  My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed.  The only &#039;amendment&#039;  to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player.  It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award.  In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff.  Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!!  Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was used as an example of someone who has a fixation about a particular &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot; (for those who don&#039;t know what that is in the early army people would shout out a verse or phrase from the Bible - hence a &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot;.  In our openair we had someone who - repeatedly - used &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot; at the most inappropriate moments (like immediately after praying for Molly lying in her bed of sickness.... and the lot fell upon Jonah!!!) (you had to be there)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Quite apart from the &amp;quot;fun&amp;quot; aspect - music camps back then - as they are now - are very helpful in the development of young people.  A week of intensive practice - musical and spiritual - and getting to know others &amp;quot;of a like mind&amp;quot; was never long enough.  As I alluded to above many friends have persisted from that time and the folks from around Glasgow that I met at music camp were very much the basis for the group of friends that I socialised with for much of my later years in Glasgow.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;br /&gt;
===West Linton Music Camps===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was, I guess, rather late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect.  It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra in Rothesay.  Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though.  Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken.  For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on.  As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp.  So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring.  My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed.  The only &#039;amendment&#039;  to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player.  It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award.  In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff.  Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!!  Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was used as an example of someone who has a fixation about a particular &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot; (for those who don&#039;t know what that is in the early army people would shout out a verse or phrase from the Bible - hence a &amp;quot;gospel shot&amp;quot;.  In our openair we had someone who - repeatedly - used &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot; at the most inappropriate moments (like immediately after praying for Molly lying in her bed of sickness.... and the lot fell upon Jonah!!!) (you had to be there)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Scottish_SA_Music_Camp&amp;diff=77</id>
		<title>Scottish SA Music Camp</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Scottish_SA_Music_Camp&amp;diff=77"/>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Admin: &lt;/p&gt;
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[[Category:Music]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:SA]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===West Linton Music Camps===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was, I guess, a bit rather late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect.  It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra in Rothesay.  Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though.  Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken.  For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on.  As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp.  So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring.  My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed.  The only &#039;amendment&#039;  to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player.  It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award.  In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff.  Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!!  Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the highlights of the week was, of course, talent night.  To be honest, I have never been completely comfortable with any sort of &amp;quot;acting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;performance&amp;quot; outside my comfort zone.  I did get involved in some rather bizarre performances at music camp though - there was the male timbrel group - appearing on the stage to the strains of a minuet by Boccherini and prancing like ballet dancers - there was the &amp;quot;pop&amp;quot; group performances (&amp;quot;In the Summertime&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Puff the Magic Dragon&amp;quot;!!) - and one particular one that stands out in the memory was the comedic openair.&lt;br /&gt;
We have all been in army meetings when something is said or done which is loaded with unfortunateness - from the CSM announcing that in the rota for organising the Saturday evening events next weeks would be &amp;quot;the Corps Secs&#039; night&amp;quot; (think about how it sounds) to the prayer for those &amp;quot;lying in their bed of sickness&amp;quot; (eugh!) and not forgetting that old favourite &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot;!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Scottish_SA_Music_Camp&amp;diff=76</id>
		<title>Scottish SA Music Camp</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Scottish_SA_Music_Camp&amp;diff=76"/>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Admin: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[Category:1970]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Music]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:SA]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===West Linton Music Camps===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was, I guess, rather late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect.  It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra in Rothesay.  Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though.  Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken.  For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on.  As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp.  So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring.  My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed.  The only &#039;amendment&#039;  to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player.  It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award.  In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff.  Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!!  Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the highlights of the week was, of course, talent night.  To be honest, I have never been completely comfortable with any sort of &amp;quot;acting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;performance&amp;quot; outside my comfort zone.  I did get involved in some rather bizarre performances at music camp though - there was the male timbrel group - appearing on the stage to the strains of a minuet by Boccherini and prancing like ballet dancers - there was the &amp;quot;pop&amp;quot; group performances (&amp;quot;In the Summertime&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Puff the Magic Dragon&amp;quot;!!) - and one particular one that stands out in the memory was the comedic openair.&lt;br /&gt;
We have all been in army meetings when something is said or done which is loaded with unfortunateness - from the CSM announcing that in the rota for organising the Saturday evening events next weeks would be &amp;quot;the Corps Secs&#039; night&amp;quot; (think about how it sounds) to the prayer for those &amp;quot;lying in their bed of sickness&amp;quot; (eugh!) and not forgetting that old favourite &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot;!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Scottish_SA_Music_Camp&amp;diff=75</id>
		<title>Scottish SA Music Camp</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Scottish_SA_Music_Camp&amp;diff=75"/>
		<updated>2019-02-02T12:16:41Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Admin: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[Category:1970]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Music]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:SA]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===West Linton Camps===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was, I guess, rather  late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect.  It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra in Rothesay.  Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though.  Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken.  For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on.  As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp.  So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring.  My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed.  The only &#039;amendment&#039;  to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player.  It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award.  In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff.  Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!!  Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the highlights of the week was, of course, talent night.  To be honest, I have never been completely comfortable with any sort of &amp;quot;acting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;performance&amp;quot; outside my comfort zone.  I did get involved in some rather bizarre performances at music camp though - there was the male timbrel group - appearing on the stage to the strains of a minuet by Boccherini and prancing like ballet dancers - there was the &amp;quot;pop&amp;quot; group performances (&amp;quot;In the Summertime&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Puff the Magic Dragon&amp;quot;!!) - and one particular one that stands out in the memory was the comedic openair.&lt;br /&gt;
We have all been in army meetings when something is said or done which is loaded with unfortunateness - from the CSM announcing that in the rota for organising the Saturday evening events next weeks would be &amp;quot;the Corps Secs&#039; night&amp;quot; (think about how it sounds) to the prayer for those &amp;quot;lying in their bed of sickness&amp;quot; (eugh!) and not forgetting that old favourite &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot;!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Scottish_SA_Music_Camp&amp;diff=74</id>
		<title>Scottish SA Music Camp</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Scottish_SA_Music_Camp&amp;diff=74"/>
		<updated>2019-02-02T12:16:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Admin: size test&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[Category:1970]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Music]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:SA]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===West Linton Camps===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was, I guess, rather late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect.  It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra in Rothesay.  Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though.  Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken.  For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on.  As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp.  So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring.  My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed.  The only &#039;amendment&#039;  to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player.  It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award.  In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff.  Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!!  Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the highlights of the week was, of course, talent night.  To be honest, I have never been completely comfortable with any sort of &amp;quot;acting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;performance&amp;quot; outside my comfort zone.  I did get involved in some rather bizarre performances at music camp though - there was the male timbrel group - appearing on the stage to the strains of a minuet by Boccherini and prancing like ballet dancers - there was the &amp;quot;pop&amp;quot; group performances (&amp;quot;In the Summertime&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Puff the Magic Dragon&amp;quot;!!) - and one particular one that stands out in the memory was the comedic openair.&lt;br /&gt;
We have all been in army meetings when something is said or done which is loaded with unfortunateness - from the CSM announcing that in the rota for organising the Saturday evening events next weeks would be &amp;quot;the Corps Secs&#039; night&amp;quot; (think about how it sounds) to the prayer for those &amp;quot;lying in their bed of sickness&amp;quot; (eugh!) and not forgetting that old favourite &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot;!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Admin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Scottish_SA_Music_Camp&amp;diff=73</id>
		<title>Scottish SA Music Camp</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Scottish_SA_Music_Camp&amp;diff=73"/>
		<updated>2019-02-02T12:16:15Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Admin: size test&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[Category:1970]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Music]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:SA]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===West Linton Camps===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was, I guess, rather late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect.  It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra in Rothesay.  Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though.  Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken.  For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on.  As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp.  So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring.  My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed.  The only &#039;amendment&#039;  to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player.  It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award.  In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff.  Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!!  Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the highlights of the week was, of course, talent night.  To be honest, I have never been completely comfortable with any sort of &amp;quot;acting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;performance&amp;quot; outside my comfort zone.  I did get involved in some rather bizarre performances at music camp though - there was the male timbrel group - appearing on the stage to the strains of a minuet by Boccherini and prancing like ballet dancers - there was the &amp;quot;pop&amp;quot; group performances (&amp;quot;In the Summertime&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Puff the Magic Dragon&amp;quot;!!) - and one particular one that stands out in the memory was the comedic openair.&lt;br /&gt;
We have all been in army meetings when something is said or done which is loaded with unfortunateness - from the CSM announcing that in the rota for organising the Saturday evening events next weeks would be &amp;quot;the Corps Secs&#039; night&amp;quot; (think about how it sounds) to the prayer for those &amp;quot;lying in their bed of sickness&amp;quot; (eugh!) and not forgetting that old favourite &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot;a&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Scottish_SA_Music_Camp&amp;diff=72</id>
		<title>Scottish SA Music Camp</title>
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[[Category:SA]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===West Linton Camps===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was, I guess, rather late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect.  It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra in Rothesay.  Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though.  Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken.  For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on.  As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp.  So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring.  My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed.  The only &#039;amendment&#039;  to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player.  It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award.  In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff.  Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!!  Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the highlights of the week was, of course, talent night.  To be honest, I have never been completely comfortable with any sort of &amp;quot;acting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;performance&amp;quot; outside my comfort zone.  I did get involved in some rather bizarre performances at music camp though - there was the male timbrel group - appearing on the stage to the strains of a minuet by Boccherini and prancing like ballet dancers - there was the &amp;quot;pop&amp;quot; group performances (&amp;quot;In the Summertime&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Puff the Magic Dragon&amp;quot;!!) - and one particular one that stands out in the memory was the comedic openair.&lt;br /&gt;
We have all been in army meetings when something is said or done which is loaded with unfortunateness - from the CSM announcing that in the rota for organising the Saturday evening events next weeks would be &amp;quot;the Corps Secs&#039; night&amp;quot; (think about how it sounds) to the prayer for those &amp;quot;lying in their bed of sickness&amp;quot; (eugh!) and not forgetting that old favourite &amp;quot;and the lot fell upon Jonah&amp;quot;!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Scottish_SA_Music_Camp&amp;diff=71</id>
		<title>Scottish SA Music Camp</title>
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&lt;div&gt;[[Category:1970]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Music]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:SA]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===West Linton Camps===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was, I guess, rather late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect.  It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra in Rothesay.  Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My memories of the first camp are a bit sketchy - I do remember that I had to be treated as a &amp;quot;special case&amp;quot; though.  Part of each morning was devoted to music theory and there were a number of different standards of classes that could be taken.  For most people you went to Theory I in your first year at camp - Theory II in your second and so on.  As I had completed my Music O Level I had already studied everything that was &#039;normally&#039; done at camp.  So - my &#039;class&#039; for the week was scoring.  My &amp;quot;task&amp;quot; (and my test) was to arrange the Camp Song (Gates of the Morning) for the performance at the final festival.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I thought that it was a &#039;reasonable&#039; attempt and it was duly performed.  The only &#039;amendment&#039;  to my score was the addition of a couple of notes at the end for the Bass player.  It was both amusing and ever so slightly smugness-inducing that everything went well - apart from the additional notes which the bass player completely messed up!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the festival there was the announcement about who had one &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;top girl&amp;quot; at the camp - I was a bit surprised to find that I won the &amp;quot;top boy&amp;quot; award.  In retrospect the weighting given to the theory aspect will certainly have helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the following three (?) years I returned as an &amp;quot;orderly&amp;quot; - they are called &amp;quot;sergeants&amp;quot; at some camps - basically we were a group of folks who had grown out of the age range for music camp and who were &#039;called back&#039; to assist the staff.  Goodness only knows what current rules on &amp;quot;safe and sound&amp;quot; would have made of the way in which those camps were staffed!!  Having said that, I am unaware of anything happening that could be deemed &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the highlights of the week was, of course, talent night.  To be honest, I have never been completely comfortable with any sort of &amp;quot;acting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;performance&amp;quot; outside my comfort zone.  I did get involved in some rather bizarre performances at music camp though - there was the male timbrel group - appearing on the stage to the strains of a minuet by Boccherini and prancing like ballet dancers - there was the &amp;quot;pop&amp;quot; group performances (&amp;quot;In the Summertime&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Puff the Magic Dragon&amp;quot;!!) - and one particular one that stands out in the memory was the comedic openair.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Scottish_SA_Music_Camp&amp;diff=70</id>
		<title>Scottish SA Music Camp</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Scottish_SA_Music_Camp&amp;diff=70"/>
		<updated>2019-02-02T11:35:26Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Admin: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[Category:1970]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Music]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:SA]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===West Linton Camps===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was, I guess, rather late on the uptake for participating in music camps, but that didn&#039;t stop me from having some great times there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My first (and last as a &#039;pupil&#039;) music camp was in 1970 and it is fair to say that I didn&#039;t really know what to expect.  It was certainly very different from the previous music camp I had been at - the Glasgow Schools&#039; 2nd Orchestra in Rothesay.  Instead of makeshift &amp;quot;bedrooms&amp;quot; in a school the SA camp was in barrack-like wooden dormitories - which at the time seemed to be extremely large, but on reflection were probably not that big!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did have the advantage of knowing the &amp;quot;bandmaster&amp;quot; for the week quite well - it was my Dad!  The &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; band was pretty equally split between cornet players and the rest.  It include a number of guys from Southport who remain among my &#039;friends&#039; to this day.  Indeed a large number of friendships can be dated to music camps - both SA and Glasgow Schools.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Scottish_SA_Music_Camp&amp;diff=69</id>
		<title>Scottish SA Music Camp</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.systemsthink.co.uk/ignowiki/index.php?title=Scottish_SA_Music_Camp&amp;diff=69"/>
		<updated>2019-02-02T11:34:54Z</updated>

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[[Category:Music]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:SA]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===West Linton Camps===&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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